To make the tie rods longer I took a rod and cut it in half then took a 1/2" bolt and cut it down to 2.5" long and welded it in the middle. I found laying something round in angle iron keeps it straight, center vice grip is holding the 2.5" long bolt. After welding I slid a piece of 3/4" OD .065 wall mild steel tubing over the rod and welded the ends to the rod. Below is my old modified rod, the new +2.5" rod and a slightly bent stock rod. Looks like plenty of room for a coil over shock Stock rims clear the arms no problem. I added some hiem seals from The chassis shop Thousands of miles millions of bumps and jumps cant be happier this setup is 100% better than stock wish Honda had made the arms +2" longer at the factory. Thoughts: Review all the pictures focus on the mounting points where the arms attach to the Pilots frame if Honda had located those mount points inboard 2" on each side they could have used the +2" arms and kept the Pilot front suspension the same width as they deliverd it too us but it would have had a honest 10" of useable travel and only gained about 1 pound of weight if that, I might be making this mod in the future, relocate the mount points inboard 1.5 to 2" then make another set of new arms that are 1.5 to 2" longer than the current +2" arms should give a honest useable 11" travel and still not have to change to a complicated bump steer linkage steering setup, the +2" arms work so well I doubt this will happen anytime soon maybe someone else wants to try it? Update 7-4-2007 I decided to notch bend and weld the A arms today to correct the upper ball joint angle allowing me to lower the upper shock mount down 1" raising the front ride height by 1" transfering more weight to the rear wheels for hopefully more traction. UPDATE 12-27-07 before testing this arm modification I bought a YODA +2" arm KIT Check it out YODA Suspension Sorry but you need to be a member of my message board and loged in to follow the updates...