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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:17 pm 
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think i have the 350 ready to go cept for 1 thing. seems the rear is stiff as hell and the shocks r on the softest setting. i believe they r the stock shocks. i am 225lbs and jump up on the frame above the rear and bounce it and they barely move. any options besides 6 or 7 hundred for the works shocks


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:50 pm 
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Sorry, not much out there for a 1 year production ATV.

1. Works are top quality IMHO for the 350s. You are right, they are very proud of them too.

2. There is another company called Progressive that makes rear 350 shocks too. I have heard they are good and heard they suck, I have never had any so I can not truthfully say. They are cheaper than works but not by a lot last time I checked.

3. I have read where you can have Bilstiens or Fox shocks built to custom specs for travel, rebound, droop, dampening, etc, etc etc but are VERY expensive to have made. I am too cheap for that.

4. Old stiff factory shocks. I disassembled the shock to start with. I drilled the reservoir, tapped the hole, drained the old nasty oil by pumping the shock and replacing the shock oil with motorcycle fork oil. I used a refilling syringe to refill. after filling, I used a small o-ring under the head of the screw when installing the screw. Reassemble with the stock springs. It actually rode very nicely but did ooze oil after riding. Not sure how to make it seal better. Maybe weld a nut over the hole???? Might make a burnt mess inside???

5. There are a few guys here(including me) that have been experimenting with other ATV shocks. Closest we have found for proper eye to eye length, spring weight, valving, etc, is some of the large CC 4X4 quads. Trouble is none are a perfect match.

Anyone else have more ideas????

Gary


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:25 pm 
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How much stroke does the rear shock have?

I just pulled all my shocks (works) to go get recharged

There is a fox 2.0 air shock that is 15.29" extended with 4" of shock travel

They get bigger from there


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:20 am 
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I have a used set of the 4 " stroke fox airs that will work for the rear forsale


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:21 am 
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would b interested in the fox air shocks shoub any idea what u want for them and what shipoping would cost im in the chicagoland area.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:25 am 
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Hows 325 shipped sounds they are in great condition. They are the exact same lenght as my works. Just set the presure to your liking and way cheaper then works


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:14 am 
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shoubadaba I'd be interested in those rear shocks if jdruger1 doesn't take them.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:05 pm 
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What model number are those? Wondering if I have the exact same ones...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:43 pm 
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I have no clue what the part number is. The shaft measurement is 4 1/8 inches and will work with the works shock bolt kit and some push in spacers in the frame up top for a smaller bolt and bolt right in. If i don't hear back by the end of the day these will go to the next person in line that pmed me. I have 2 people that pmed me


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:34 pm 
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DMoneyAllstar what is the part number of the set that you have? I want to find a set and that would help out.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:44 pm 
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the part # for the fox air shock i believe is 980-02-013 4" stroke 2" dia


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:52 pm 
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i sent u a pm shoub


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:38 pm 
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Can someone verify the part number on these?

By doing a google search it shows the part number 980-02-013 A as 15.53" extended length. If this is an eye to eye measurement they are too long. If this is an overall length, then these bad boys would work and are only 211 a piece. Considerably less than the works shock.

If so I'm going to buy a set!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:52 pm 
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those r the shortest 2" body air shocks fox makes from what i could find and the 4" stroke matched what shoub and some other posts i had seen said so im pretty sure they r it.and actually most of the sites i have found it on claim ext length is 15.29 but quite few sites r showing an a after the number don't know what it refers 2. im starting to think the 15.29 is eye to eye and 15.53 is actual shock length


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:10 pm 
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jdruger1 wrote:
those r the shortest 2" body air shocks fox makes from what i could find and the 4" stroke matched what shoub and some other posts i had seen said so im pretty sure they r it.and actually most of the sites i have found it on claim ext length is 15.29 but quite few sites r showing an a after the number don't know what it refers 2


I was just looking at that myself. 15.29 should work although it might take an ever so slight adjustment on the upper link to give a slightly positive camber of a degree or two.

There is another part number of 980-99-013A that lists the same length but can't tell what the difference is between the two.

Here is what I got from a google search.

2.0 Pro-Series Air Shock 4.0" Travel, 1.25" Shaft dia. Extended length 15.29" and collapsed length 11.29" from eye to eye. You can adjust the nitrogen air pressure in this shock from 10-500psi.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:19 pm 
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im not sure but i think u need to have some info for valving when u order these. the fox website is showing a table for comp and rebound valving http://www.ridefox.com/product.php?m=of ... ref=filter


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:32 pm 
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What Valving have you guys been running on the fox shocks in your FL350's?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:35 pm 
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I just measured and my works rears are 15.1875 eye to eye

They've got 4" of shaft before the rubber bump stop

I can tell how much of the stroke is used

My question would be...on the fl350 is the shock acting as the limit stop on these?

If so, someone should check if these fox shots are meant to be used as a bump stock shock

Also, remember that you will need access to, or own a nitrogen setup, to adjust these


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:42 pm 
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Yes the stock shocks are the limiting stop.

Fortunately I have access to a nitrogen supply!

Rand


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:12 pm 
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This turned into a really great 350 thread...Thanks Guys!!!!


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Could you use a limiting strap on them if they are a little long? Or am I missing something?
Sshubey


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shubey wrote:
Could you use a limiting strap on them if they are a little long? Or am I missing something?
Sshubey


Limit strap would be easiest but you can add spacers inside the shocks to limit their travel.

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Is that something that could be done by the average person or special tools & skills needed?
Shubey


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:08 pm 
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shubey wrote:
Could you use a limiting strap on them if they are a little long? Or am I missing something?
Sshubey


The shocks we are talking about are not too long so there is no need to run a limit strap or have them shortened if they are truly 15.29". They would only be .040" longer than the Works shock which specs in at 15.25".

As I said before that if they are indeed too long and cause the U joints to bind, this could easily be compensated for by running 1 or 2 degrees negative rear camber.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:24 pm 
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was just spending some time on the fox site and this was after i pulled a rear tire and shock off and did some measuring involving center to center of the shock mounts and where the u joints bind and the top link hits. reason being while looking for info on the air shocks in question i cam across some shocks fox refers to as smooth body with resevoirs. I need to get some info on the actual offset from end of shock and center of eye cause im not sure im interpreting the info on the eyelet lengths table but i believe they may make a resevoired shock that may fit the bill if a collar were added to the bottom to limit travel from 5 to 4. the only question is do these shocks perform better than the 4" stroke air shocks that seem to b a bolt on to warrant the extra work.


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