This one is for you Randistman LOL.
Since it is raining here at the moment and there is still snow in the hills and roads F'D up, I decided to tackle the rear shock rebuild. At the moment it is only taken apart, but I do have the parts.
I will add a note to each pic if necessary and there is some important info there so don't skip over.
The shock I am rebuilding was toast before I took it apart. If you pushed in the rod it didn't come out and oil smear was all over the outside if it. There was only a quarter oz of oil left in it.
There may be some points of argument here but I have my own pet theories. In my opinion these are oil only shocks (no gas). I can here the laughter already. You will all say "but the rod extends out on mine after you push it in". My answer is that pressure is caused by build up of pressure after it has run awhile. I believe I can prove this. Back in 1979 when I tried my luck at motocross racing (I sucked), my front shocks had shrader valves on them, at the time this was a hop up secret. The shrader valves were not to add psi but to let the air pressure out !!! With zero pressure at start of race by the end of the race it had substantial pressure build up. Also the stock rear shocks do not have a port to add any gas pressure so they must be oil only.
Get your fork and sharpen the knife.

More pics and info.

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Well.....

Where's the rest of it? Inquiring minds want to know! LOL

Rand

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I guess I'm jumping the gun.

I'll quit typing and be patient.

Rand

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Side note:
In the last two pics here I noticed that I placed the circlip at the wrong end in the picture.
Also I have several rebuild kits for my shocks and even though they are the same part number, one of my kits has an extra seal in it, but it is not used for our shocks.


More to come in the following days.

Hope you cover how fix the bushings that I haven't found a replacement for?

Start a new thread on it please, and add lots of CLEAR pics please so I know what you are talking about.

OPPPS ---- The circlip in the last two pics is in the correct position.
I must have been thinking about the clip that holds everything in place at the very top end of the shock.

Well I completed it tonight.
Seems to work. Ready to go.

Time to use the knife and fork Rand

Will be working on another project, but not until winter possibly.
There is a belief that you must run the oddy rear shocks because all other shocks are to long and cause u-joint bind.
You are all mistaken .
(I am talking about non works and other very high priced shocks)

The bushing in the rear shock you just rebuilt. Did you change them out?

Great Job Can Odd! You did well!

Crow really doesn't taste all that bad! LOL

We should be able to save quite some shocks that just need the internals rebuilt.

Now we just need to figure out how to fix the bushing on the bottom of the shock. I'm guessing there may be some Heim joint that is available that will press into the shock.

Randiestman

Are you sure on the nitrogen for these shocks I thought they are charged with nitrogen, their is a special tool or procedure to charge shocks without the fittings, a shock expert could probably tell you the details, but the nitrogen keeps the bubbles out of the oil improves dampening without the bubbles.

I remember MGR telling me he rebuilt Gottarides OEM rear shocks think it was just seals and fresh oil, fuzzy on the nitrogen charging details so many conversations from too many years ago think he welded fittings on the shocks, factory shocks sucks the spring rates are crazy stiff so not long after rebuilding he installed WORKS.

My RZR shocks requires you use a special needle stuck in a rubber plug on the shock to add the nitrogen I drilled, tapped added a standard fitting.

I was under the impression they were filled with nitrogen also. Maybe I'm wrong (wouldn't be the first time LOL)?

If memory serves me right, in a free state without the spring, the shock will rebound back after compression.

Rand

Like I said in the very first paragraph of this post "points of argument".
I honestly feel they are oil only.
I believe this because there is no fitting of any kind to insert gas. In my mind you need some kind of fitting. Otherwise how did the factory install the gas ?? Like I said in that first paragraph, when I was a teen racing motocross my front shocks had shraders to let the air out because it builds up as the forks cycle. I bet these shocks did the same over time. The cycling causes heat and heat causes pressure build up.

No I did not change them out. May be something I can think about for a future project .
Man I got a lot of projects right now. I am planning on building a vacuum former this winter as well. I want to make a couple of those tool boxes that you put in place of that roof panel or maybe between your legs between the two front bars. Way way way to many brain waves.

I'm with Hoser, I believe they are nitrogen charged. This is what I was thinking when I said that they couldn't be rebuilt to start with. One way to find out if they will work without the nitrogen charge..........

Your next quest should be a ride test and report please.

Rand

Actually I will be installing them on my brothers machine because the ones he has on right now are leaking. He was telling me that they were bottoming out. May take a while to get back to this post with a report.
I also feel that after a few rides these shocks will "gas up".
As they cycle they will build up heat and pressure.

You two ride pretty hard so it should be a good test to see if they will work without a nitrogen charge.

Keep us posted.

P.S. If it works we all all be sending you our old FL350 shocks for a rebuild LOL!

Rand

Well I learned my lesson from that jaylow goof, so I don't think I would be doing anything like that anymore. Unless I know someone personally I will have to pass. In fact I wasn't even sure if I was going to post this at all in the first place because I didn't want to help out some clown like that. If you read the post slowly you will see that I did leave out some critical info. If any of you guys want to know what it is you will have to pm me.

Here is another great read on why I believe the single tube shock design of the oddy is NOT gas charged: https://www.rideapart.com/articles/the- ... -explained
Some people here have worx or fox shocks on their oddy's and the gas charge and oil are always separated from each other by a piston and O-rings. The oddy rear shocks have no piston.
The first part is just boring so you can skip to the real details starting at "Balance free rear cushion".

I have not forgotten this post. The weather has been bad here for a while now and I don't like riding in the mud. In fact its raining here now. Also family issues screw up the riding as well. I will update. Also I contacted Showa shocks for info but they have not gotten back to me. Their website says they reserve the right not to reply to some inquiries. If they do respond I will post.