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Author:  oleskool [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  2 issues
1st issue-- 89 pilot- fresh rebuilt Engine, fired up took for test drive nothing serious and the 90 going into the can for the cooling system blew off, It slipped back in, but question is is that supposed to be able to come in and out or do I need to jb weld it in?--pic attached.



2nd issue--85 fl350 wont rev out, hits about 1/4 to 1/2 throttle and falls on its face. carb has been gone through twice, new plug, new rings, great compression. Complete Engine rebuild new bottom end from Speedchaser, honed and new rings. Any Ideas?

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Author:  canadian oddy [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
Not sure about #1 but I don't think it is suppose to just come out. Does it leak ?? Is it o-ringed ??
As for #2 that sounds like jetting or a fuel issue but it could also be a worn out or slipping belt, or worn out (grooved) faces on the clutch.
Author:  oleskool [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
#1 no its not o-ringed.

#2 it does it just sitting still when you rev it up, new gas in it and same jets as it had before i blew the bottom end out and ran great.
Author:  canadian oddy [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
oleskool wrote:
#1 no its not o-ringed.

#2 it does it just sitting still when you rev it up, new gas in it and same jets as it had before i blew the bottom end out and ran great.


Oh my -- falls on its face just sitting there when you rev it up. That just screams fuel supply to me.
Author:  Pilot bird [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
The elbow on the pilot cylinder does come off, but should not come off or pop off easily. There should be threads for you to screw the elbow on and off. Please see pic, I had the elbow break off and had to replace.

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Author:  hoser [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
oleskool wrote:
#1 no its not o-ringed.

#2 it does it just sitting still when you rev it up, new gas in it and same jets as it had before i blew the bottom end out and ran great.


I have never seen the elbow come out before I think they just press in if it was mine I would drain the cooling system remove the elbow clean it perfectly and JB weld it back in OR use the correct loctite on the press in part then JB on the outside to ensure it never comes out again.

Whats with those head nuts? Are those locking nuts?
Author:  wyeeoddy [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
#2

Sounding like a limiter problem

Could it be the rev limiter cutting in. Have you pull the Engine out or played with any of the earthing wires.
or a broken wire to the gear box change switch / wiring or connector.

wyeeoddy
Author:  oleskool [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
Yes hoser, thas a cool head from speedchaser that was on it when I bought it.
Author:  hoser [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
oleskool wrote:
Yes hoser, thas a cool head from speedchaser that was on it when I bought it.


Speedchasers Cool Head was designed to use the OEM head nuts I question the ability to get an accurate torque using a lock nut, maybe Canadian oddy can comment on the fasteners he is a Millwright..
Author:  hoser [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
Pilot bird wrote:
The elbow on the pilot cylinder does come off, but should not come off or pop off easily. There should be threads for you to screw the elbow on and off. Please see pic, I had the elbow break off and had to replace.


OEM comes with a press in fitting the one in your picture must be an aftermarket modification.
Author:  oleskool [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
Ok like I said it was like that when I bought it. not having any issues with the head or compression from it, just the water outlet blew out of the can.
Author:  oleskool [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
Here is a short video of the oddy running shitty
Author:  canadian oddy [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
hoser wrote:
oleskool wrote:
Yes hoser, thas a cool head from speedchaser that was on it when I bought it.


Speedchasers Cool Head was designed to use the OEM head nuts I question the ability to get an accurate torque using a lock nut, maybe Canadian oddy can comment on the fasteners he is a Millwright..


Any drag or friction will change your torque setting. If you lube the threads on a regular nut with oil you have to change your torque wrench settings. The nylon causes drag as the threads cut in. The real question here is, will it make any real difference ?? In my opinion not much, but then again I am a bit of a hack n whack guy. I do things others won't. Also a nylock nut is only good to about 250'F but that is good enough for what I do -- ooops out comes some of my Neanderthal. My motto is get it done and will it run ??
Author:  oleskool [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
OK Im going to say this again , the head is not an issue, compression is fine no issues what so ever with the head. The ISSUE IS the coolant port in the can popping out ""where I am pointing in the picture" that is with the PILOT
Author:  oleskool [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
That being said, the pilot issue has been resolved.
Author:  canadian oddy [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
oleskool wrote:
OK Im going to say this again , the head is not an issue, compression is fine no issues what so ever with the head. The ISSUE IS the coolant port in the can popping out ""where I am pointing in the picture" that is with the PILOT


Sorry man got off topic. I would JB weld it in.
Author:  canadian oddy [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
oleskool wrote:
Here is a short video of the oddy running shitty


No link to video
Author:  oleskool [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
wont let me post it
Author:  canadian oddy [ Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 issues
canadian oddy wrote:
oleskool wrote:
#1 no its not o-ringed.

#2 it does it just sitting still when you rev it up, new gas in it and same jets as it had before i blew the bottom end out and ran great.


Oh my -- falls on its face just sitting there when you rev it up. That just screams fuel supply to me.


What is fuel supply of pump please.
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