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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:41 pm 
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I know I've posted this process before, but I'm building another shaft for methodical. With his incredible skills he can utilize this shaft to its full extent. This shaft will accept Polaris ranger front cv shafts or some other 22 spline shafts. Here is the original build thread. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14265&start=125


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:20 pm 
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Once again -- great work.
I can see why you don't have time to fool around with rubber Engine mounts.
How did you make that cutter for the correct spline profile ??


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:56 pm 
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Sorry if it's a bit out of focus my new phone doesn't like to take pictures of small things. So originally when I made this cutter I had used a lead hammer and smacked the splines on the cv shaft. This left a perfect imprint of the splines in the face of the hammer. I then used that to grind this profile cutter. The inside splines are definitely the most difficult due to the deflection and not being able to see your work.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:07 pm 
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Does your machine index for each spline or is it manual?

What do you plan for heat treating?

Awsome work, keep it up.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:28 pm 
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So all I did to set up the lathe as a indexer. Is turn up a hub to accept the indexing plates and built a fame to hold a alignment pin. It seems to work well. It could be a but more rigid but it think that a tiny bit of flex helps from binding the tool. It kinda has a spring action. It takes many passes to cut a spline. The heat treatment I send them out to have it done properly. Then I surface grind the bearing surfaces.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:34 pm 
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Well I will admit (and I'm not ashamed to admit) that you got more skills than I do.
I use a spin index mounted on the lathe for anything I do. I am a bit crude.
Yeah I can see how deflection could be an issue, especially on a long hole.
So basically you hand made that cutter with a grinder and file. That's what I wanted to know. THX.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:43 pm 
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So exactly how do u cut the internal splines? Please excuse my ignorance.
I see from the above post what I was wondering.
Awesome work


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:10 pm 
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Splines can be cut on the lathe using the single point broaching technique. By locking the spindle and using a cutter turned sideways you can manually run the tool back and forth. With a profile cutter it will form the splines one by one.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:08 pm 
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:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

John you keep me stepping!!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:00 am 
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After a little bit more work on the splines. I then install a Short splined shaft I made. This serves as a arbor to turn the rest. I can then turn the outside profile whal keeping it true to the inner splines.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:59 pm 
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Holy Crap. I WANT ONE. This is an amazing Idea to replace the output shaft with another shaft that will accept an OEM Type axle without crazy chopping/welding the stock axle.
Any plans to sell?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:45 pm 
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I would like to sell them but due to the amount of time it currently takes to make them it would be very costly. I'm looking into other methods to lower the cost. Each shaft and hub will require over 30+ hrs to complete


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:55 pm 
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Here are some pictures of another I've completed


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:08 pm 
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That's awesome.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:56 pm 
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And I have such plans for this one. I must say, I've already installed one of John shafts and it was like butter, he is an artist!

hehe..he said John's shaft!

Sorry couldn't help myself...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:18 pm 
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methodical wrote:
And I have such plans for this one. I must say, I've already installed one of John shafts and it was like butter, he is an artist!

hehe..he said John's shaft!

Sorry couldn't help myself...


We forgive ya -- it's not you talkin -- it's your OCD person :-)


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:51 pm 
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Did some more work on the shaft today. Got the threads cut and splined the other side. This is the method i used to make the profile cutter. A piece of lead smashed against the male shaft creates a nice negative.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:41 pm 
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I see now.
Very nice work.
Are you a machinist by trade ??
Just wondering how you acquired the skills.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:52 pm 
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YouTube certified! I bought the lathe about 3 years ago and I've been hooked ever since.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:22 am 
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Looing Great! I truly appreciate the hours of work and attention to detail it takes to hand craft these shafts!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:13 pm 
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Mine works great indeed, these are the way to go for sure for the future!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:47 pm 
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Mudbogger wrote:
Mine works great indeed, these are the way to go for sure for the future!

Got any pictures to share?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:55 pm 
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jknarfal
you ever think about making a rotary broach for your lathe would be a lot faster
not bad to make the main thing is the holder 1° to 2° angle


SpeedChaser :-)


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:11 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuT6mrAMOxE

I like the result at the end near the one minute mark.
Cool stuff man has invented.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:59 am 
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I have looked into the rotary broach. I haven't found them in larger diameters. And I don't believe byou can adjust dimensions very easily. I have a 10" Lewis shaper that hopefully ill get a dividing head and start building these on.


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