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 Post subject: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:46 pm 
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This is the stock pipe that got damaged in that dyno clutch explosion.
As you can see there is a perforated material inside that is spot welded along the seam. The stock pipe also has three divets on the outside of it on each side of the pipe. These divets are actually stand offs for the perforated metal. You need these stand offs because it appears that there is also sound deadening material behind that perforated metal. My money says it's asbestos but not sure.
CO


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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:21 am 
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Some more pics and info.
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File comment: Here is a pic of those divets I was talking about. They're stand offs on the inside. They hold the perforated screen away from the side so that there was clearance for the asbestos sound deadener.
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File comment: Even welded the little back bone back on it (for the lack of a better term).
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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:55 am 
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Looks good. Did I miss it, did you gut the pipe or just repair?


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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:00 pm 
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go oddy wrote:
Looks good. Did I miss it, did you gut the pipe or just repair?


I took all the guts out.
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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:25 pm 
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That will increase your flow significantly I bet.


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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:18 pm 
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be sure to check you jetting, the pipe not should work more like it should


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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:33 pm 
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Ok now you need a stock pipe and dyno that. Then dyno this pipe. Wonder what the difference will be


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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:54 pm 
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Ok now you need a stock pipe and dyno that. Then dyno this pipe. Wonder what the difference will be


Don't got a stock pipe in my parts supply anymore.
However I will be putting the other two machines on the dyno but I am waiting for a mini tach. Apparently it's suppose to be here the first week in march. Well we'll see. My other order got cancelled so I am not optimistic. Without it I can't do any dyno runs ---- period.
All three machines have a slightly different configuration. I'm interested in the results as well.
Also will have to figure out how to make up the sheet because of the two ratios involved (gearbox ratio as well as clutching ratio). I need data first though.
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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:57 pm 
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princess auto doesnt have any cheap tachs that will work, what about amazon


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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:17 pm 
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princess auto doesnt have any cheap tachs that will work, what about amazon


Princess auto only has those laser tachs and I already have one of those to read the axel rpm. It won't work for the Engine because I need all of the data recorders next to each other so that I can film it on my phone. Therefore I need a wired tach.

Amazon -- yeah that's where this crap is ordered from but it comes from China almost always. We don't make anything in north america unless the company can make a gazillion dollars for one item and pay the working man peanuts. Based on statscan data I am making 8/hr less than I made in 1982 based on inflation :shock: .
Go to the statscan website and check your pay. You might be shocked.
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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:39 am 
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I know it sounds counter intuitive, but there are scenarios where a textured finish on a surface actually improves air flow. However, I think this situation is as you suspected, the perforated material is probably just for sound.

In the spirit of your inner mad scientist, if you had 2 pipes, could you do some kind of rudimentary flow test? I imagine a 55 gallon drum emptied through your tune pipe..lol


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 Post subject: Re: Stock pipe inside
PostPosted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:08 pm 
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canadian oddy wrote:
go oddy wrote:
Looks good. Did I miss it, did you gut the pipe or just repair?


I took all the guts out.
CO

You now have a cheater pipe, I did the same thing on my Pilot back in the day when racing the "Stock" class, used it for the Modified class too.

Check your jetting


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