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Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:10 am ]
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Free power wheels Prowler. Just needs a new battery but I bought 2x 12v 14ah SLA type (originally came with 1x 12v 9.5ah), and a new switch for $60. parts arrive tomorrow. Also thinking about doing a 24 volt conversion with a 24 volt scooter controller. Google it. Sounds fun!

Original plan is to just have the two 12v batteries so the kids can ride with one battery on the charger. Also planning to put a couple resistors in the wiring harness so that the acceleration and braking aren't so jerky, and an inline fuse on the pos. line off the battery (safety). Stock setup, low gear is 6v and high gear is 12v, and the wires can actually get "warm" when they're tooling around in high gear (yikes!), hence the fuse. And will prob pop a couple LED lights in the empty head lights running on a switch and 9v batteries...just because. =-)

Then once the kids have the hang of driving it, I'll convert it to 24v (both batteries). Then it'll be 12v in low gear and 24v in high gear, but the little gear shifter can be locked in low gear. Can even put a POT in the throttle circuit to dial-down the top-speed. With the controller, can even include brakes, brake lights, key switch, reverse, headlights, reverse buzzer, and even smoother accel/decel. There's a guy selling a kit on evilbay around $100 for it all, but you really just need about $40 of it to do the basics. The controller sells for $20, and the resistors and the POT are el cheapo.

The stuff people do to these things is ridic. modifiedpowerwheels.com is full of rednecketry.

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Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:47 am ]
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And after taking the body on and off a couple times messing with the uber simple wiring harness, I already have visions of the body retrofitted to a weed-trimmer driven tube chassis with suspension, LOL! :shock:
Author:  fully [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:28 am ]
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you will have to upgrade the electric motors if you run on 24v. my kids had the f150 and running 24v was cool as hell, they would be doing donuts in the middle of the street. but it ate the stock motors real quick. i think i upgraded to 550 titans or something like that. also a lot of people upgrade and use dewalt motors
Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:33 am ]
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Good to know - thanks! If/when i convert it, its def getting bigger motors. Kinda hoping the motors in it end up being fried so I can straight to the conversion, lol. The scooter controllers handle from 300 to 1000w motors.

I read some of the motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) choices and it's amazing these little things can push these vehicles+kids around like they do. Mega RPM + gear reduction makes some speed and torque. Cooling the motors becomes the issue.
Author:  hoser [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:34 am ]
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Grand son use to have one of the yellow Hummers it was cool, but the drivers area was so small he was only able to use it about 2 months then out grew it, its a poorly designed POS that is not accommodating to different sized operators and passengers, it received very little use I am glad I didnt buy it and someone else did lol.
Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:10 pm ]
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In reading more on these "power wheels conversions", I've learned that people are simply nuts! It starts out with a voltage upgrade. Then maybe a scooter controller, key-switch, and some LED headlights. But then it leads to more serious mods like bigger/better motors, heat sinks with fans, conversion to 10ga wire, foot brake, and brake lights. THEN people actually retrofit a chain drive rear end and opt for a steel tube steering linkage setup, a stereo, and one dude even went 4x4. And then they think they're some kind of "Power wheels hero" or something. Its really its own little world. What's neat about it is that the cost is fairly low. $20 motors and $24 batteries, 60-cent resistors, $20 controllers...its not only a scale down version of a buggy, the cost is too! Fun, but I plan to keep it low on the more "lame" side of the powerwheels spectrum, lol. I can see how it can all escalate quickly though.

If my 2.5yo daughter hates it or grows out of it, my little boy will be here (born) in a few weeks and will get some use on it a couple years down the road.

Bought some wired LED's with resistors today for the headlight.

Looking at tracking....the batteries, LEDs and new foot switch won't be here until Friday. I can wait, but my daughter has asked me about it every morning and every evening, lol. Kids remember EVERYTHING.
Author:  bullnerd [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:46 pm ]
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I skipped the electronics and went right to a 2 stroke. Have to find one with the built in gearbox though, don't remember what it came off of. Straight whacker Engine (ghey auto correct) wont have the torque. This was 10 or more years ago. Pretty funny watching a plastic quad ride around with smoke coming out the back.

Have you seen this one...http://www.race-dezert.com/home/jim-mck ... -2810.html
Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:48 pm ]
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bullnerd wrote:
...Have you seen this one...http://www.race-dezert.com/home/jim-mck ... -2810.html


Niiiiice! I just don't have that kind of free time though! lol
Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:50 pm ]
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http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=2-stroke+powerwheels
Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:36 pm ]
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Now she's rollin'! Woo-hoo!! :-) :-)

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:47 am ]
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DMoneyAllstar wrote:
Now she's rollin'! Woo-hoo!! :-) :-)


The seating area in that one is much bigger and better than the Hummer POS we had, looks like you could put a 12v deep cycle battery in the back so kids could ride all day lol
Author:  badbob66 [ Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:08 am ]
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hoser wrote:
DMoneyAllstar wrote:
Now she's rollin'! Woo-hoo!! :-) :-)


The seating area in that one is much bigger and better than the Hummer POS we had, looks like you could put a 12v deep cycle battery in the back so kids could ride all day lol


Bought my son a power wheels quad when he was about 3 years old, it had 2 6 volt batteries in it wired up to be 12 volt, the batteries died so I replaced it with a 12 volt small lawn tractor battery, it gave it good power and spun the plastic tires so I put a bunch of sheet metal screws in the plastic wheels so it looked like a ice racer then he could dive it in the dirt and grass no problem.
About a week after I got it all fixed up Some TWEEKERS stole it out of my yard :shock:
I told the local police since I thought it would be a good idea to let them know somebody is stealing stuff in the area, they told me they would keep an eye out at the houses that stolen stuff ends up at :shock:

Bob
Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:15 pm ]
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My daughter's only complaint so far = "too bumpy" lol Its the "monster traction" version so its got deeper plastic tire tread and is a tad rough (for a 2.5 yr old girl). Get the thing in the grass and "monster traction" my a$$! She's got 5500sf of asphalt plus 1200sf of barn to ride it in, so no worries. After 10-min of riding while I held onto the windshield frame or her hand, she wants nothing to do with my help anymore, lol. ='(

And so far the 25A fuse seems to be doing fine, but I want to get a breaker for it instead.

Still amazed and a little impressed at how simple the electrical is in these little things. Its literally 1 battery + 1 plunger switch + 2 six pole rocker switches + 2 electric motors + some wire. It'd be a great little ''electrical 101'' project for a 10-12yr old kid. Lessons about checking continuity, splitting voltage, reversing polarity, Kurkov's Law, etc.

I found a pair of red LED clearance lights in my stash, plus the wad of LED bulbs/resistors will be here today. So she'll have running lights before the weekend is over. :-)


Added: the plastic wheels and their traction...I think the plastic gearboxes appreciate the wheel slip. Too much traction and/or weight, and you're replacing gears.

Only problem I have so far is that I can't charge a battery and run a battery at the same time b/c I only have one of the factory female plugs. I'd have to rig something or else find a dead powerwheels battery from which to swipe the female plug.
Author:  B S [ Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:09 pm ]
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i put a car battery in my neighbors one that had bad battery's lol it would last for a week before it was dead



also if you do any thing with an Engine don't make it gay like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idMN2Ct ... 0TpwzGwFOo
Author:  hoser [ Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:12 pm ]
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B S wrote:
i put a car battery in my neighbors one that had bad battery's lol it would last for a week before it was dead



also if you do any thing with an Engine don't make it gay like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idMN2Ct ... 0TpwzGwFOo



Even the music in the video was GAY3 :-)
Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:26 pm ]
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LED headlights are in. Much thanks to the wife's glue gun. Need to get a 9 volt battery connector off of something in my shop to make it legit. Taillights next...

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