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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:42 am 
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Ran across this the other day, showed it to some people as a joke.. have always liked the look of ramp trucks. Well they convinced me to go ahead and buy it.. so now i am adding this to my lineup of projects.. lets see this is like the 3rd in line? i need to quit buying shit.

Anyways its a 1972 Chevy C30 Ramp truck. 350, auto trans, Factory A/C. Has 70 Camaro buckets (as far as i can tell they are 70 camaro/firebird buckets), Its got rear airbags, onboard water that doesnt work, 10,000lb winch, and rust! Cab corners are rusty, floors are fiberglass under the pedals so you know there is holes under there, and the inner roof is starting to rusty above the windshield. guessing cab lights leaked and water stood there between the roof skins. Also has what looks like a dealer installed cruise control setup. I need to figure out how and if it works!

So here are the pictures. this will be a slow project. like i said it is 1 of 3 i am currently working on. This will be a driver and fix things as i go. Here is the list of things i will be doing in the very near future, then the rest will be after i get the 72 k20 done! I figure for now it will be nice to haul the pilot around

Move ramps back below the bed (DONE)
New Tail Lights
Install Factory Tach dash to remove ugly column tach
Remove Camaro buckets for a stock bench seat
Replace painted bumper with the chrome one from my 72 k20, has slight bend but will look better than black!
Remove the dumbo mirrors and install a set of 72 below eyeline mirrors


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:51 pm 
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Cool, how much was it?

What gearing is it 70 mph friendly?

Assume its a TH400 trans?

Nice hauler..


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:06 pm 
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hoser wrote:
Cool, how much was it?

What gearing is it 70 mph friendly?

Assume its a TH400 trans?

Nice hauler..


I paid 3,000.

Not sure on gearing. Had my step dad drive it home. I just got my hand controls in it this week so I can drive it and only took it around the block. Will take it for a trip this weekend.

I assume it is a th400.. Again I haven't looked. I think the 1 tons came with the 400.

Yeah it should be handy. I plan to fill the front toolbox with some cheap tools to have with me. I figure when I go riding I'll take this vs truck and trailer. So much handier and won't put wear and tear on my pickup. Fuel milage outta be about the sane. Probably a little worse. I get 13 in my 92 k1500. Will have to calculate this one


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nitrosport_5 wrote:
hoser wrote:
Cool, how much was it?

What gearing is it 70 mph friendly?

Assume its a TH400 trans?

Nice hauler..


I paid 3,000.

Not sure on gearing. Had my step dad drive it home. I just got my hand controls in it this week so I can drive it and only took it around the block. Will take it for a trip this weekend.

I assume it is a th400.. Again I haven't looked. I think the 1 tons came with the 400.

Yeah it should be handy. I plan to fill the front toolbox with some cheap tools to have with me. I figure when I go riding I'll take this vs truck and trailer. So much handier and won't put wear and tear on my pickup. Fuel milage outta be about the sane. Probably a little worse. I get 13 in my 92 k1500. Will have to calculate this one



My guess is 8-10 mpg hope its better, the cool factor is worth the MPG besides when else will it get used if not on ride trips, those seats look like the ones they put in Blazers back in the day just ? My brother bought a new 77 Vega it had the same seats they used in the Camaro.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:21 pm 
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hoser wrote:
nitrosport_5 wrote:
hoser wrote:
Cool, how much was it?

What gearing is it 70 mph friendly?

Assume its a TH400 trans?

Nice hauler..


I paid 3,000.

Not sure on gearing. Had my step dad drive it home. I just got my hand controls in it this week so I can drive it and only took it around the block. Will take it for a trip this weekend.

I assume it is a th400.. Again I haven't looked. I think the 1 tons came with the 400.

Yeah it should be handy. I plan to fill the front toolbox with some cheap tools to have with me. I figure when I go riding I'll take this vs truck and trailer. So much handier and won't put wear and tear on my pickup. Fuel milage outta be about the sane. Probably a little worse. I get 13 in my 92 k1500. Will have to calculate this one



My guess is 8-10 mpg hope its better, the cool factor is worth the MPG besides when else will it get used if not on ride trips, those seats look like the ones they put in Blazers back in the day just ? My brother bought a new 77 Vega it had the same seats they used in the Camaro.


They aren't factory seats I know that. They're blocked up with some 2x4. Ibwrite this on the side of the road. Lost spark... Lol. And its not 70mph friendly. Was 3000rpm at 60


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:43 am 
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nitrosport_5 wrote:
hoser wrote:
nitrosport_5 wrote:
hoser wrote:
Cool, how much was it?

What gearing is it 70 mph friendly?

Assume its a TH400 trans?

Nice hauler..


I paid 3,000.

Not sure on gearing. Had my step dad drive it home. I just got my hand controls in it this week so I can drive it and only took it around the block. Will take it for a trip this weekend.

I assume it is a th400.. Again I haven't looked. I think the 1 tons came with the 400.

Yeah it should be handy. I plan to fill the front toolbox with some cheap tools to have with me. I figure when I go riding I'll take this vs truck and trailer. So much handier and won't put wear and tear on my pickup. Fuel milage outta be about the sane. Probably a little worse. I get 13 in my 92 k1500. Will have to calculate this one



My guess is 8-10 mpg hope its better, the cool factor is worth the MPG besides when else will it get used if not on ride trips, those seats look like the ones they put in Blazers back in the day just ? My brother bought a new 77 Vega it had the same seats they used in the Camaro.


They aren't factory seats I know that. They're blocked up with some 2x4. Ibwrite this on the side of the road. Lost spark... Lol. And its not 70mph friendly. Was 3000rpm at 60



Sorry to hear you lost spark drop a HEI in that thing if it does not have one already :-) 3k at 60 sounds like 4:10 gearing like my 72 GMC had I put a 700R4 trans into it out of my 86 Suburban .


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:05 pm 
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It was dark by the time I got home so didn't get a chance to diagnose. Wondering if it lost the rotor or maybe the distributor gear. It does have hei on it already. Will look at it tonight once it cools down outside.

Yeah I think an overdrive trans is in order for this thing eventually. Its got a button zip tie to the shifter with a hurst logo that I haven't figured out what it does yet. Didn't get a chance to press it. Only got a mile out of town when she gave up on me.


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nitrosport_5 wrote:
It was dark by the time I got home so didn't get a chance to diagnose. Wondering if it lost the rotor or maybe the distributor gear. It does have hei on it already. Will look at it tonight once it cools down outside.

Yeah I think an overdrive trans is in order for this thing eventually. Its got a button zip tie to the shifter with a hurst logo that I haven't figured out what it does yet. Didn't get a chance to press it. Only got a mile out of town when she gave up on me.


Crawl under and look to see if it has a over drive attached after the transmission you might already have OVER DRIVE :-)


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:50 pm 
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Yeah I'll take a look this afternoon. Can't imagine anyone driving it from Indianapolis to wa state without over drive.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:23 pm 
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nitrosport_5 wrote:
Yeah I'll take a look this afternoon. Can't imagine anyone driving it from Indianapolis to wa state without over drive.


I run my RV 3000 to 3200 RPM from Illinois to AZ CA NV all the time , probably about 18k miles so far, its my $1350.00 beater lol


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:42 pm 
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Good looking 72 Nitro, congrats.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:18 pm 
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Thanks Rarerat.

don't know what made this thing die on my last night. went out there and it fired up like new.... so i guess ill have to go for another drive and see what the deal is.


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nitrosport_5 wrote:
Thanks Rarerat.

don't know what made this thing die on my last night. went out there and it fired up like new.... so i guess ill have to go for another drive and see what the deal is.


Something in the HEI over heated and killed the spark?

don't forget to hit the button you have me curious whats its for lol


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hoser wrote:
nitrosport_5 wrote:
Thanks Rarerat.

don't know what made this thing die on my last night. went out there and it fired up like new.... so i guess ill have to go for another drive and see what the deal is.


Something in the HEI over heated and killed the spark?

don't forget to hit the button you have me curious whats its for lol


I agree. I put a cheep aftermarket HEI in a flip car several years ago. It ran great, then out of no where it would just dye. You could crank it over till the cows come home and nothing. It seemed like If you pulled the cap and then replaced it suddenly it would fire right up and run great. The problem ended up being the ground for the coil in the cap was bad. It came with a wire instead of the metal ground bracket like a factory HEI. Once I swapped the ground, never had another problem. :-)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:31 pm 
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Its a GM hei unit I'm 90% sure. If it does it to me again I've got an accell hei distributor I'll throw in it from my other 72 and get a new one for that truck I'm restoring.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:30 pm 
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Well, took the truck to Colfax this weekend. About a 40 min drive the back way. Not one hiccup, pop, stumble nothing.. WTF?

Next day she fired right up. moved it to the shop and put my chrome bumper from my other 72 on it... its a bit tweaked but better than the black one.

Drove it home from colfax again another 40 minutes no issues. BUT i did find out what that button on the shifter does... disengauges the torque converter or puts it in neutral. Hold the button for 3 sec or so and it will coast. you can rev the Engine and nothing. at slow speeds if you do this you can kindof feel it move the truck slightly. Not sure what the need for that switch is.. but its there!


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nitrosport_5 wrote:
Well, took the truck to Colfax this weekend. About a 40 min drive the back way. Not one hiccup, pop, stumble nothing.. WTF?

Next day she fired right up. moved it to the shop and put my chrome bumper from my other 72 on it... its a bit tweaked but better than the black one.

Drove it home from colfax again another 40 minutes no issues. BUT i did find out what that button on the shifter does... disengauges the torque converter or puts it in neutral. Hold the button for 3 sec or so and it will coast. you can rev the Engine and nothing. at slow speeds if you do this you can kindof feel it move the truck slightly. Not sure what the need for that switch is.. but its there!


So the trans is not a OD trans but has a lock up torque converter?

My mom's 1980 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup came with a straight 6 and it was not a OD trans but had a lock up converter think it was one of the early attempts for MPG thing got like 20 mpg.

So it don't just unlock if you hit the button and act like a normal converter then locks back up, the 700R4 in my diesel Blazer was programed to shift like a 5 speed shifted from 1-2 then the torque converter locked up (felt like a shift) then 3-4 shifts if you put it to the floor it would down shift if it was a steep hill you could feel the torque converter unlock but for the most part once you got up to about 36 mph the converter locked up and stayed locked the guy that did the trans for me said he could install a switch to unlock the converter manually if I wanted, seen no need for it so never did.

don't do that "kind of feel it move the truck slightly" thing I bet your slipping and heating up things you should not when this happens. bad bad bad :shock:


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hoser wrote:
nitrosport_5 wrote:
Well, took the truck to Colfax this weekend. About a 40 min drive the back way. Not one hiccup, pop, stumble nothing.. WTF?

Next day she fired right up. moved it to the shop and put my chrome bumper from my other 72 on it... its a bit tweaked but better than the black one.

Drove it home from colfax again another 40 minutes no issues. BUT i did find out what that button on the shifter does... disengauges the torque converter or puts it in neutral. Hold the button for 3 sec or so and it will coast. you can rev the Engine and nothing. at slow speeds if you do this you can kindof feel it move the truck slightly. Not sure what the need for that switch is.. but its there!


So the trans is not a OD trans but has a lock up torque converter?

My mom's 1980 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup came with a straight 6 and it was not a OD trans but had a lock up converter think it was one of the early attempts for MPG thing got like 20 mpg.

So it don't just unlock if you hit the button and act like a normal converter then locks back up, the 700R4 in my diesel Blazer was programed to shift like a 5 speed shifted from 1-2 then the torque converter locked up (felt like a shift) then 3-4 shifts if you put it to the floor it would down shift if it was a steep hill you could feel the torque converter unlock but for the most part once you got up to about 36 mph the converter locked up and stayed locked the guy that did the trans for me said he could install a switch to unlock the converter manually if I wanted, seen no need for it so never did.

don't do that "kind of feel it move the truck slightly" thing I bet your slipping and heating up things you should not when this happens. bad bad bad :shock:


Sorry, meant to add trans is a th400. I only feel 3 shifts and at 60 its about 3500rpm.

Yeah when you hit the button the truck will coast. Rev the Engine gets you nowhere. I don't plan on doing the slipping of the trans, was just trying to see if it was an extra gear or what exactly was going on.


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nitrosport_5 wrote:
hoser wrote:
nitrosport_5 wrote:
Well, took the truck to Colfax this weekend. About a 40 min drive the back way. Not one hiccup, pop, stumble nothing.. WTF?

Next day she fired right up. moved it to the shop and put my chrome bumper from my other 72 on it... its a bit tweaked but better than the black one.

Drove it home from colfax again another 40 minutes no issues. BUT i did find out what that button on the shifter does... disengauges the torque converter or puts it in neutral. Hold the button for 3 sec or so and it will coast. you can rev the Engine and nothing. at slow speeds if you do this you can kindof feel it move the truck slightly. Not sure what the need for that switch is.. but its there!


So the trans is not a OD trans but has a lock up torque converter?

My mom's 1980 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup came with a straight 6 and it was not a OD trans but had a lock up converter think it was one of the early attempts for MPG thing got like 20 mpg.

So it don't just unlock if you hit the button and act like a normal converter then locks back up, the 700R4 in my diesel Blazer was programed to shift like a 5 speed shifted from 1-2 then the torque converter locked up (felt like a shift) then 3-4 shifts if you put it to the floor it would down shift if it was a steep hill you could feel the torque converter unlock but for the most part once you got up to about 36 mph the converter locked up and stayed locked the guy that did the trans for me said he could install a switch to unlock the converter manually if I wanted, seen no need for it so never did.

don't do that "kind of feel it move the truck slightly" thing I bet your slipping and heating up things you should not when this happens. bad bad bad :shock:


Sorry, meant to add trans is a th400. I only feel 3 shifts and at 60 its about 3500rpm.

Yeah when you hit the button the truck will coast. Rev the Engine gets you nowhere. I don't plan on doing the slipping of the trans, was just trying to see if it was an extra gear or what exactly was going on.


Their has to be more to it why else would someone hook up a button, sounds strange. If you needed neutral so you could speed up the Engine for a winch or something you could simply shift it out of gear lol


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hoser wrote:
nitrosport_5 wrote:
hoser wrote:
nitrosport_5 wrote:
Well, took the truck to Colfax this weekend. About a 40 min drive the back way. Not one hiccup, pop, stumble nothing.. WTF?

Next day she fired right up. moved it to the shop and put my chrome bumper from my other 72 on it... its a bit tweaked but better than the black one.

Drove it home from colfax again another 40 minutes no issues. BUT i did find out what that button on the shifter does... disengauges the torque converter or puts it in neutral. Hold the button for 3 sec or so and it will coast. you can rev the Engine and nothing. at slow speeds if you do this you can kindof feel it move the truck slightly. Not sure what the need for that switch is.. but its there!


So the trans is not a OD trans but has a lock up torque converter?

My mom's 1980 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup came with a straight 6 and it was not a OD trans but had a lock up converter think it was one of the early attempts for MPG thing got like 20 mpg.

So it don't just unlock if you hit the button and act like a normal converter then locks back up, the 700R4 in my diesel Blazer was programed to shift like a 5 speed shifted from 1-2 then the torque converter locked up (felt like a shift) then 3-4 shifts if you put it to the floor it would down shift if it was a steep hill you could feel the torque converter unlock but for the most part once you got up to about 36 mph the converter locked up and stayed locked the guy that did the trans for me said he could install a switch to unlock the converter manually if I wanted, seen no need for it so never did.

don't do that "kind of feel it move the truck slightly" thing I bet your slipping and heating up things you should not when this happens. bad bad bad :shock:


Sorry, meant to add trans is a th400. I only feel 3 shifts and at 60 its about 3500rpm.

Yeah when you hit the button the truck will coast. Rev the Engine gets you nowhere. I don't plan on doing the slipping of the trans, was just trying to see if it was an extra gear or what exactly was going on.


Their has to be more to it why else would someone hook up a button, sounds strange. If you needed neutral so you could speed up the Engine for a winch or something you could simply shift it out of gear lol


Yeah.. Sounds strange. Almost winder if it was part of a line lock solenoid that Locked the front brakes as well? Need to trace the wires and find where they go. Google searching I found a Hurst line lock kick that has the same button to lock the front wheels.. Still very odd to have line lock on a 1 ton truck if that's the case lol


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It could have a line lock on a 1 ton truck for winching. My brothers boss has an 87 K30 tow truck that has it. I was trying to get him to sell it to me and he sounded interested. Just uncertain about selling a truck that will make him money. I'm in love with the truck. Super clean, very little rust. 4x4 with the winch boom and a wheel lift added on. All new hydraulic hoses and winch cables spring 2014. He has all nice modern equipment and only uses it as an extra to drag people out of the ditch in the winter if all the other trucks are busy. Has a 2 year old Jasper long block in it and he's had nothing but problems with the Engine. You can drive around town all day and everything is cool but after about 3 minutes of doing 55 on the open road it loses oil pressure and starts knocking until you let it cool off and start over again?? Doesn't make any sense to me and Jasper won't stand behind it. Sell it to me right :-). Was thinking I could pick it up for 3-4k and just do an Engine swap. I stopped down over the weekend though and I guess he got cold feet about selling it because its at a shop and they're putting another long block in it. That'll take it out of my price range even if he still wants to sell it.

Anyway enough of my week ruining story and back to the line lock subject lol. By the drivers left knee there is a switch that raises the idle up and a knob that pulls out of the dash. You push the brake pedal down as hard as you want to apply the brakes and pull the knob. That's where it sets your brakes. On the center hump it has the switches for the PTO and all the different lights.


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I remember a plug wire arcing to ground will cause HEI to shut down & will take out the module if allowed to continue. maybe check the wires. you can often see them arc in the dark. Neat Truck :-)


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