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 Post subject: 583 swap
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:35 pm 
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I need help on the wiring. what wires from the pilot go to what wires on the 583


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:03 am 
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halorising wrote:
I need help on the wiring. what wires from the pilot go to what wires on the 583


can you be more specific? take a pilot wiring diagram, and a 583 wiring diagram side by side and study what wires control what. give you a good idea of what you need to do.

Are you trying to make the pilot factory wire harness work with the 583? When i did my 670 and my 570 swaps, i made a harness from scratch. used some of the factory connectors but that was about it.

i guess you could leave the pilot harness, hack out what you don't need, and then start adding the wires needed for the 583, but to me that sounds like more of a headache than building a new harness.


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:25 pm 
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When JordanHiggins did his, he hacked it in, and it looked like shit.


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:14 pm 
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WIth the 583 there are three wires to tie into the original harness.
Depending on the year the black kill switch wire will come out of the Engine or the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) all you have to do is tie this in to the live side of kill switch
The two yellow wires go to the voltage regulator, I used the honda voltage regulator in my swap, some guys prefer to use the sled voltage regulator and I give them upon request when I have them

If the pilot regulator isn't compatible with the 583 I will start including the voltage regulator in the kit


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:50 pm 
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Ok so i got a little work done on my pilot this weekend after finishing Steve Wheels 583 swap. Mine is somewhat more fab work with the new cage that Dave-co built but is coming along. What do you guys think?


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:00 am 
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looks amazing


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:06 am 
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Looks great with the cage painted chris


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:12 am 
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That thing looks badass great job!!


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:27 pm 
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very nice!!!


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:57 pm 
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Looks mean! Very admired!
May I ask what kind of terrain will that bad boy be tearing up?


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:50 am 
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Well the 583 is already out of it. Im going bigger lol. This baby will tear up anywhere i can put the wheels on the ground. But im building it to run with Steve Wheels in the dirt seires and the lucas oil.


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:51 am 
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halorising wrote:
Well the 583 is already out of it. Im going bigger lol. This baby will tear up anywhere i can put the wheels on the ground. But im building it to run with Steve Wheels in the dirt seires and the lucas oil.

what u dropping in it now?

800cc E-TEC?

fuel injected , electronic oil injected 2 stroke :-)


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:54 am 
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hmmmmmm a big old bad ass 670


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:58 am 
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halorising wrote:
hmmmmmm a big old bad ass 670

go with an e tec you won't be sorry

the 600cc one has 120 HP
the 800cc one has 163.9 H.P

that's whats going to drop into my pilot when i can


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:41 am 
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I like that 800 etec. do you think it will bolt in the same mount as a 583


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:41 am 
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halorising wrote:
I like that 800 etec. do you think it will bolt in the same mount as a 583

Not too sure
But its rotax pretty sure they didn't change the mounts

I'll look and see


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:43 pm 
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halorising wrote:
Well the 583 is already out of it. Im going bigger lol. This baby will tear up anywhere i can put the wheels on the ground. But im building it to run with Steve Wheels in the dirt seires and the lucas oil.


The 583 not enough power?? If you go bigger, will the tranny handle the extra hp?

How's the suspension?


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:59 pm 
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what are the details on the electric start? I am starting to plan my swap.

thanks


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:57 pm 
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cruz_01 wrote:
halorising wrote:
Well the 583 is already out of it. Im going bigger lol. This baby will tear up anywhere i can put the wheels on the ground. But im building it to run with Steve Wheels in the dirt seires and the lucas oil.


The 583 not enough power?? If you go bigger, will the tranny handle the extra hp?

How's the suspension?


if the trans goes poof he can always go with a RPM trans and 930 cv's


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:11 pm 
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and if the stock 800 isnt enough
https://aerocharger.com/turbo-systems/s ... idoo-etec/


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:12 pm 
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halorising wrote:
Well the 583 is already out of it. Im going bigger lol. This baby will tear up anywhere i can put the wheels on the ground. But im building it to run with Steve Wheels in the dirt seires and the lucas oil.



what are you going to do with the 583? HINT HINT


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:48 pm 
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Its blown and on its way to farr


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
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shoubadaba wrote:
Its blown and on its way to farr

how did he blow it up?


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:34 pm 
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Im not sure it was blown. It sat for about 10 years before i got it. Farr says that is the prob the seals and i said well shit lets go bigger. My tranny is toast but i have the parts for a full rebuild, its coming out now


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 Post subject: Re: 583 swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:27 pm 
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I thought all his engines were "rebuilt"


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