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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:54 pm 
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Your pucks are installed correctly.

What is the width of your belt?


New the belt width is 30.2mm, or 1.1875 in or 1 3/16 inch
Service limit is 27mm or 1.06in or 1 1/16 inch.

A simple way to look and see if your belt is excessively worn is to look how it rides in the rear pulley. If the outer edge of the belt is lower than the outside of the pulley, its worn beyond service limit. The true test is the measurement.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:10 am 
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Re the Clutch

I would contact Comet Direct
with the problems your having with that clutch

Did it have a comet on it before

? Is the belt the right width
and
? Is the clutch setup for the width for the belt


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:20 am 
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Thanks for the quick responses guys.

Belt measures 1 1/16" right now. So I'm guessing I'm at my service limit most likely.

What belt are you guys running? I'm going to replace mine regardless.

Oddy came with the Salisbury on it. I bought the 94c for it after reading all the good reviews and being too cheap to get the 102. (basically all stock when I bought it. Now I want a ported cyl, so the 102 seems to be the better choice now)

94c says it accomodates up to a 1 1/4" belt.

Clutch set up for the belt width? I don't know. How would I go about checking? It was listed as being for the FL 350, so i assume it's sets up???


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:56 am 
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I try and run a Genuine Honda belt if you find them.

I have 1 new one honda belt left my belt draw.

But I have used Carlisle UA404 belts and they are good to

I carry a Carlisle belt as a spare on the oddy. Never had to use it
but it is there if I need it

? In the second pic with the side on view is the spring in the clutch
if so what colour.

The resson I am asking moveable face is sitting to low because the moveable
face should be higher then the center shaft. because when you put the ribbed cover
on and use the special bolt to pull the cover down and lock it onto the shaft
As the face needs to have tension on it.

OK Ribbed cover and shaft ""back to topic""

something is not right.


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:47 pm 
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Yes spring is in the clutch in that pic. Not sure of color.

The seller of the clutch gave me Comet's support line phone #. I will be calling them and getting their take on the issue.

Thank you for your help guys.


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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:01 am 
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If the spring is in the clutch

there is a problem

is the clutch off if so can you measures the length of spring

here is one I prepared earlier

end to end is 3" or 75mm

The moveable face should sit 1/4" to 1/2" above there shaft when
fitted with a spring @ 3" or 75mm

As there is not enough tension on the spring

What Comet part number is on the box you got.



yeoddy


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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:27 pm 
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The oddy is at my shop with the clutch installed.

Thanks for the pics, they helped a bunch. I see what you're talking about the moveable not sitting above the center pin.

Did some research last night on here and found an old post where someone had the same issue. He spoke with someone who said the 94C can be made to fit different size belts depending on which spacer is installed. So I'm guessing maybe mine is set up for a 1 1/4" or larger belt maybe????

As for the box it came in, I'm sure it's long gone. Bought the clutch back in January and installed it right away, so I cannot tell you the exact model number. Sorry.

Thank you for your help


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:45 am 
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I would still contact the supplier as you purchased it as a bolt on

Even if its setup for a different belts that is still not right I still needs Tension

and there is no Tension

I would assume you got
COMET 94C 211493A RIBBED FACE DRIVE CLUTCH

the other option is dose it have 2 spacer kits fitted as per parts list
Item 2 part number 205744A

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again hope this helps


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:00 pm 
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Thank you for the help on this.

So, my spring is orange and only measures 2 13/16". (3/16" less than the one you have)

When the moveable is just resting on top of the spring, it sits about flush with the top of the center post. (barely above it)

So, you were asking if I had 2 spacers (Part #2 in the diagram) installed? I cannot tell if there is 2 or only 1. The spring has about a 5/16" deep "seat" for it to sit in.


What is the travel limiter on these 94C clutches? Meaning, what stops the moveable sheave from opening too much?

My problem seems to be the moveable opening too far and allowing the pucks to slide off the end of the ramp.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:07 pm 
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And your belt seems to travel much higher up on the sheave according to the wear mark. Yours looks to be about 1/4" from the outer edge.

Mine is 7/16" from the edge.

I do however have a new belt for it now. The Dayco HP 3004

It is wider than the worn out one, so I assume that should help with getting the belt closer to the top


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:10 pm 
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Does anyone know what keeps the moveable sheave from opening up too much?

The absolute max the puck can slide is 3/4". After that it falls off the ramp and jams between the outer cover and moveable


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:38 am 
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The width of belt. I would assume


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:13 am 
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I was kinda thinking coil bind could be???

Anyways, New belt here, New orange spring on the way, and a new upper bushing too.

Going to see what happens I guess.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:31 pm 
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OK, so the new orange spring arrived. It measures 2 15/16" (just a tad taller than the existing one)

Fit it to the clutch and it doesn't sit as hi as wyeoddy's in his pic. (notice how his sits almost even with the bottom of the outer cover "notch"?

Mine sits about 1/8" down.

With the outer cover sitting atop the spring his looks to be about 3/16" above the center post.

Mine sits about 1/16" above.

Do you guys think I should add a 1/8" shim to my clutch to bring it up to wyeoddy's?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:16 am 
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I think I asked this question before

Do you know the part number of the clutch you bought


yeoddy


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:20 am 
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In the parts list attached

? Item 6 might help But it not listed for a 206094A clutch

Have you spoken to Comet.

yeoddy


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:42 am 
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xlint89 wrote:
Thank you for the help on this.

So, my spring is orange and only measures 2 13/16". (3/16" less than the one you have)

When the moveable is just resting on top of the spring, it sits about flush with the top of the center post. (barely above it)

So, you were asking if I had 2 spacers (Part #2 in the diagram) installed? I cannot tell if there is 2 or only 1. The spring has about a 5/16" deep "seat" for it to sit in.


What is the travel limiter on these 94C clutches? Meaning, what stops the moveable sheave from opening too much?

My problem seems to be the moveable opening too far and allowing the pucks to slide off the end of the ramp.


Item 2 wont help you need item 6 but as my previous post the 206094A clutch kit dose not have it listed BUT that is if
you did get a 206094A clutch Kit.

yeoddy


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:09 pm 
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Yes you did, sorry.

Part number 211493A is the one I ordered. I don't know if that's the one I have. (not sure if there's a way I can verify the part number once it's removed from the box)

Comet gave me the number to Don Jackson I believe his name was. He was the one asking me about the spring color and bearing location on the center post, etc.... Really not much help.


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