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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:10 am 
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Hello to all, lets have some fun.
I know most of us are getting old but I think the part of our brains that think about Pilots and Odysseys is still fine tuned like a race car.
So lets see.

What are the differences between the 1989 and 1990 Pilot?

Post what you know and even why the change if you can.

I know most if not all of the differences so I will keep quiet for a while.

This is a test, no cheating memory only.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:02 am 
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Ok my friend I will take a stab at this...
1) The wiring has additional circuits in 90
2) Caliper isn't painted
3) Reverse light is relocated
4) There is a vent tank for the fuel system
5) gas cap
6) roll bar bolts are a different color and the head size is different
7) roll bar caps are a different to fit the different sized bolts.
8) 90 is heavier
9) Production run was much smaller in 90
10) 90 Pilots were Purple & Yellow :shock: well maybe not all of them :-) lol....


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:29 am 
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Very good Sir, but there is more.

I will grade you all haha, later on.

We need to ride soon!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:12 am 
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Upper a- arms are different between 89-90
90 has a fuel vapor recovery system. 89 does not.
90 has a different assembly for the fuse box then the 89 on the frame
90 uses different size bolt heads for the intake
rubber protective lining on the rear metal brake line is longer on the 90 then the 89
I have heard the carb are different in casting between the 2 but never had real confirmation this was true.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:23 am 
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Yes sir, I would love to go ride again soon. :-)

A few more things came to mind..

frames are different
exhaust is different
the heat shield on the muffler is different


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:26 pm 
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exhaust cover in cockpit on the 90 is plastic and 89 is like the head net
89 had roll bar nut covers 90 didnt


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:11 pm 
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rarerat wrote:
Yes sir, I would love to go ride again soon. :-)

A few more things came to mind..

frames are different
exhaust is different
the heat shield on the muffler is different


I should have know I have 3 of the shields for a 90!! Brand new!!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:35 pm 
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Cylinder head not painted on 90.

Skid plates are different.

Reeds.


http://www.pilotodyssey.com/89-90Pilot.htm

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5888&start=0


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:08 am 
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rarerat wrote:
Ok my friend I will take a stab at this...
1) The wiring has additional circuits in 90 A+, the 89 has 2 fuses and the 90 has 5, late 89 and 90 wire harnesses also had an upgrade
2) Caliper isn't painted A+
3) Reverse light is relocated A+
4) There is a vent tank for the fuel system A+
5) gas cap A+
6) roll bar bolts are a different color and the head size is different A+
7) roll bar caps are a different to fit the different sized bolts. A, nuts
8) 90 is heavier A+
9) Production run was much smaller in 90 A+
10) 90 Pilots were Purple & Yellow :shock: well maybe not all of them :-) lol.... E for effort


rarerat wrote:
Yes sir, I would love to go ride again soon. :-)

A few more things came to mind..

frames are different B+, mounting brackets on frames are different
exhaust is different A, muffler and heat shields are different. I am not sure on the pipe.
the heat shield on the muffler is different A+


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:22 am 
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Mudbogger wrote:
Upper a- arms are different between 89-90A+, the 90"s are stronger
90 has a fuel vapor recovery system. 89 does not.A+
90 has a different assembly for the fuse box then the 89 on the frameA+
90 uses different size bolt heads for the intake this is a new one on me, please explain
rubber protective lining on the rear metal brake line is longer on the 90 then the 89A++, I had to go out in the garage and check this and bi golly you are correct.
I have heard the carb are different in casting between the 2 but never had real confirmation this was true.A+, the 90 has a different carb. part # and it calls for different jetting. I as well have no more information on this.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:26 am 
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shoubadaba wrote:
exhaust cover in cockpit on the 90 is plastic and 89 is like the head netA+
89 had roll bar nut covers 90 didntNo sorry, I think we have proof that they came on both years. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10888" ."..


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:28 am 
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afastcar wrote:
Cylinder head not painted on 90. A+

Skid plates are different. This is something I did not know, can you please explain.

Reeds. A+


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:46 am 
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scpilot66 wrote:
afastcar wrote:
Cylinder head not painted on 90. A+

Skid plates are different. This is something I did not know, can you please explain.

Reeds. A+



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:45 am 
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Hello Hoser, thank you Sir.
You learn something new every day.

Are you coming down this year?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:19 pm 
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How about the factory flag, in 89 it was a chezze pop it type and the 90 was a classy/ quality honda flag pole mount and flag. Misc related: The silencers were also different, that one may have been covered under exhaust earlier. The cdis are different, The coils are different. Something about the rear shock and shock springs color maybe, slips my mind as of now. The wiring harness as mentioned and the ignition switch and key and timmer unit for the new harness and wireing changes.

Ok to give me an F on spelling and grammer, I'm use to it.

Oh ya the 89 was faster in stock trim.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:31 pm 
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The 89 was made in 89,the 90 was made in 90


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:27 pm 
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redskinman wrote:
The 89 was made in 89,the 90 was made in 90



Actually the 89 was made in 88 and 90 was made in 89 :shock:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:29 pm 
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afastcar wrote:
redskinman wrote:
The 89 was made in 89,the 90 was made in 90



Actually the 89 was made in 88 and 90 was made in 89 :shock:


LOL


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:12 am 
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they are both the same.... neither was made available in AUS (will stop crying now)


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:42 am 
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adnoh wrote:
How about the factory flag, in 89 it was a chezze pop it type and the 90 was a classy/ quality honda flag pole mount and flag. Misc related:A+
The silencers were also different, that one may have been covered under exhaust earlier. A+
The cdis are different. I did not know this, can you please explain.
The coils are different. Please explain
Something about the rear shock and shock springs color maybe, slips my mind as of now. Something else I was unaware of.
The wiring harness as mentioned and the ignition switch and key and timmer unit for the new harness and wireing changes.This is also a new one on me.

Ok to give me an F on spelling and grammer, I'm use to it. No F's given here buddy, how about an E for effort. Haha

Oh ya the 89 was faster in stock trim.Really?


Ok Adnoh, you have me scratching my head now. Great just what I needed this morning, to work my tired brain. Thanks. LOL!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:19 pm 
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The '91 had 2 seats and a 500 cc jug.
Wait a minute, that one got canned.
nevermind.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:11 pm 
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viewtopic.php?f=43&t=10927

Moved the bla bla bla to the above link to clean up post' I will add additional infor there.
edited 10/27/12


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:51 pm 
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I forgot to add the most important item. At the canopy plug where the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) plugs in the (H E O) for 89 is black letters and 90 is red letters. I have more on this subject and will share later as I can. mean while all you guys go look at your bike. if you have an red on our 89 most likly it has the updated CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition). AHH could this be why it only list one for the pilot, an update. Wonder if the changed the capisator discharge timeing and quantiy for cleaner burning at high rpm, Ummmm.

Darn EPA.


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