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DONALD TRUMP OR HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT
Donald Trump 85%  85%  [ 34 ]
Hillary Clinton 15%  15%  [ 6 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:36 am 
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Who are you voting for...take the poll..


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I am Canadian but will vote anyways if that is ok. If not then remove one Trump.
Have to say it's sad that either of them are the best you guys could find.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:24 pm 
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That's easy, Trumpf by a landslide!
Why wouldn't you?
Likes money (lots of money)
Likes toys (cool jet with gold plated stuff in it)
Likes grabbin' p#$$y (hot model p#$$y)
That's every guy here! :-)


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Trump.


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This would of been a good year for a good independent candidate to run Iam not crazy about Hilllary but come on Trump is just nuts he makes up his owne rules and when I have to pay more taxes then he does that's not wright and if you look into how many people he has ripped off in the past he builds a casino then lies about how much it's makeing then files chapter 11 his money was safe but the people that built it did not get payed a lot of union guys never got payed for there work . He never plays with his money it's always someone else money so he can't lose if it payes out great and if its a bust he safe . And this wall that he wants will never happen he said Mexico is going to pay for it they can't feed there owne people but there going to pay for a wall he's in fantasy world . Like I said I'm not a big Hillary fan but she is a lot better then crazy man a lot of his owne party (Republican ) wont stand behind him . I don't vote just for one party I vote for the person I think could do the best job at it I don't care if there Rep our Dem .


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Cant stand either one but dislike Hilary more,thinking about voting 3rd party,I wish they would let him{Gary Johnson} in the debate.
I really don't know much about him but I dislike the others so much :shock:


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Trump!


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This would of been a good year for a good independent candidate to run Iam not crazy about Hilllary but come on Trump is just nuts he makes up his owne rules and when I have to pay more taxes then he does that's not wright and if you look into how many people he has ripped off in the past he builds a casino then lies about how much it's makeing then files chapter 11 his money was safe but the people that built it did not get payed a lot of union guys never got payed for there work . He never plays with his money it's always someone else money so he can't lose if it payes out great and if its a bust he safe . And this wall that he wants will never happen he said Mexico is going to pay for it they can't feed there owne people but there going to pay for a wall he's in fantasy world . Like I said I'm not a big Hillary fan but she is a lot better then crazy man a lot of his owne party (Republican ) wont stand behind him . I don't vote just for one party I vote for the person I think could do the best job at it I don't care if there Rep our Dem .


Paying for the wall is simple you just charge non US residents $25.00 to cross the border in either direction each time, their are other ways to generate money to pay for the wall but I would start with a toll, I pay tolls all the time all over the USA and I am a LEGAL resident.

Trumps positions can be viewed on his website https://www.donaldjtrump.com just click on positions.


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Oh dear god please not here, I'm so sick and tired of this crap infiltrating every page and forum..
hoser please remove this. Let's just be enthusiasts and leave the politics "at home"


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:01 am 
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First off..mexico is going to pay for the wall...just realize that when Trump fixes the trade deficit between Mexico which is 60 billion....the wall only costs 10 billion....he wants to stop immigration which costs america...straight off google A 2013 report from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) estimates that illegal immigrants cost local, state and federal government $113 billion per year. Of that total, $52 billion goes to educating illegal immigrants. Almost all of that cost falls on state and local governments.....they are non tax paying people..don't worry about trump he pays millions and millions in property tax and others each year...don't worry about his income tax he hasnt paid..he is doing it legally. HILLARY wants open borders and an increase in syrian refugees by 515% over obama...you will be crying when Muslims break into your house and rape your wife while you are at work. I live in Nj and saw how the whole Casino thing went down...Democrats run that city and have been forever...with regulation after regulation strangling trump...he got out when he knew that they were going to build in PA.. Trump is a business man and he wants to make money not lose it...He didnt grow up wanti g to be a polished politician. He has a straight to the point no bullshit grab America by the ((Bad Word)) kind of attitude that we need. As far as Johnson goes...let me address that real quick. " what is Aleppo?" done....back to my point. Hillary has been in power for 30 year and nothing has changed and it never will with her as president. She got 2 people tht we know of killed by her leaked emails...she got american soldiers killed over seas...she left the white house broke and now is worth over a 100 million...ask yourself what Hillary was selling to get that kind of money.. Ame4ican Secrets and Policy. Keep in mind if you like your second amendment. ...right to bear arms for you Canadians and aussies. Your guns will be taken...as soon as she gets in she will hire democratic supreme court justices that will destroy our Constitution forever.. i would have to say that anyone that can afford an odyssey or pilot here are Middle Class... Hillary wants to raise the tax for all middle class. Se wants to raise the death tax to 65% for those more fortunate... that is insane...just think if your family has a farm just making it by and your dad passes... you have about 3 million invested with machines and land...just think about it th government will take your land....look up any of this info its all true...i have more to write but i am at work providing for my family and a syrian refugee that has been relocated in the United States somewhere.... you think they would provide you with a picture of the lazy illigal immigrant family your paycheck is helping..


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:57 am 
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Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
Go Trump!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:26 pm 
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Kangaru was wright this is not the places for this I have seen good friends not talk anymore because of stuff like this . The last thing I would wont to do is to tell anyone who they should vote for that's up to each one of us


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:41 pm 
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Trump.

Tired of the political correct bull shiza! I like the fact that he speaks his mind and isn't politically correct at all.

I would like to see the lesser of the 2 evils take office but unfortunately, we all know who the next president is going to be.

Get ready for eight more years of the same bull shiza!

Rand


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:08 pm 
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Trump-Pence all the way, baby!

Crooked Hilary is only getting more crooked by the minute. Sooooooo effing tired of the bleeding heart PC liberal croanie-connection bullcrap. Clinton Foundation schemes, countless acts of perjury, immunity handed out to witnesses and contributors like halloween candy. Effed up!

And I'm totally disgusted to see Iran, Russia and even effing CUBA rise to power again. Sickening.

My health insurance costs skyrocketed while my coverage sank. Same insurance plans offered by my employer...cost me $200 to have my daughter 4.5yrs ago. And then 2.5yrs later cost $3600 out-of-pocket to have my son and he was in the NICU 3-days less than my daughter! Coverage eroded while costs shot up. I can't even be on the same insurance as my wife & kids b/c of new rules, so I have to be on my own crappier insurance with separate deductible. DUMB!

Too many jobs headed south and Far East. Toledo, OH has held on to JEEP production for decades. It IS possible to make vehicles here in the USA. Just have to level the playing field. But changes need to be made to at least even out the trade deals.

Our military and police are ridiculed by OUR OWN PEOPLE (mostly liberals). Military is the weakest and most disrespected it's ever been. Police have no respect and no rights.

:-) TRUMP-PENCE - GRAB AMERICA BY THE PU$$Y! :-)


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VanelayIndustries wrote:
First off..mexico is going to pay for the wall...just realize that when Trump fixes the trade deficit between Mexico which is 60 billion....the wall only costs 10 billion....he wants to stop immigration which costs america...straight off google A 2013 report from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) estimates that illegal immigrants cost local, state and federal government $113 billion per year. Of that total, $52 billion goes to educating illegal immigrants. Almost all of that cost falls on state and local governments.....they are non tax paying people..don't worry about trump he pays millions and millions in property tax and others each year...don't worry about his income tax he hasnt paid..he is doing it legally. HILLARY wants open borders and an increase in syrian refugees by 515% over obama...you will be crying when Muslims break into your house and rape your wife while you are at work. I live in Nj and saw how the whole Casino thing went down...Democrats run that city and have been forever...with regulation after regulation strangling trump...he got out when he knew that they were going to build in PA.. Trump is a business man and he wants to make money not lose it...He didnt grow up wanti g to be a polished politician. He has a straight to the point no bullshit grab America by the ((Bad Word)) kind of attitude that we need. As far as Johnson goes...let me address that real quick. " what is Aleppo?" done....back to my point. Hillary has been in power for 30 year and nothing has changed and it never will with her as president. She got 2 people tht we know of killed by her leaked emails...she got american soldiers killed over seas...she left the white house broke and now is worth over a 100 million...ask yourself what Hillary was selling to get that kind of money.. Ame4ican Secrets and Policy. Keep in mind if you like your second amendment. ...right to bear arms for you Canadians and aussies. Your guns will be taken...as soon as she gets in she will hire democratic supreme court justices that will destroy our Constitution forever.. i would have to say that anyone that can afford an odyssey or pilot here are Middle Class... Hillary wants to raise the tax for all middle class. Se wants to raise the death tax to 65% for those more fortunate... that is insane...just think if your family has a farm just making it by and your dad passes... you have about 3 million invested with machines and land...just think about it th government will take your land....look up any of this info its all true...i have more to write but i am at work providing for my family and a syrian refugee that has been relocated in the United States somewhere.... you think they would provide you with a picture of the lazy illigal immigrant family your paycheck is helping..


So much to say so little time. My concerns in the order of importance for me and my family are.

1. Appointment of up to 4 new supreme court justices in the next 4 years, I like Trumps selection WAY better than Hillary's.
2. Immigration. Trump is pro closed borders and bringing jobs back to America Hillary is pro open borders and pro free trade, globalization, protects and defends NAFTA.
3. Hillary wants to raise taxes on EVERYBODY then SPEND more.
4. Hillary wants to expand Obamacare!

Republicans Democrats has been screwing the working class since 1986 when they gave amnesty to millions of ILLEGALS their is an estimated 30-50 million ILLEGALS living in America today mostly uneducated, unskilled losers from 3rd world losing countries.

When professional sports teams picks new team members they pick the BEST OF THE BEST why is Team America picking WORST OF THE WORST and accepting losers from 3rd world countries? WHY not demand that all new immigrants be educated and have verifiable work experience I am talking minimum 4 years of college.

http://cis.org/Ten-Immigration-Question ... ry-Clinton


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Kangaru wrote:
Oh dear god please not here, I'm so sick and tired of this crap infiltrating every page and forum..
hoser please remove this. Let's just be enthusiasts and leave the politics "at home"


This topic is located in General BS, the name of the topic is very clear what your going to find if you enter the topic and start reading, everybody here has the choice of reading any topic they want on this site, or NOT. :shock:


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Hey Hoser: 4. Hillary wants to expand Obamacare!
Can you or any other American please explain to me (Canadians) the issue you guys have against national healthcare ??
As a Canadian we prize our "free" healthcare system. Any politician wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole here because they know if you F with it your gone in the next and any future re-election.
We know it's not free because I pay at least 50% taxes by the time it's all said and done. My pay cheque reflects this. My recent accident that broke my back cost me $80. And that's for two helicopters and more than a week stay in hospital and follow up care. In America you are bankrupt. I have difficulty with working my whole life for what I got only to declare bankruptcy because I got hurt and had to pay hospital bills. In the states you can read stories all the time about this because the insurance companies find loop holes or word the policies so they don't have to pay the full shot. If some goof steals more than 50% of my pay cheque and then tries to steal the rest for medical bills then I am going to get my gun, F it.


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The politicians in america...mock the Canadian health care system saying it takes months to be seen by a doctor for a procedure.. is this true or blown out of proportion?


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VanelayIndustries wrote:
The politicians in america...mock the Canadian health care system saying it takes months to be seen by a doctor for a procedure.. is this true or blown out of proportion?


That's only half true.
Everyone always takes the worst case scenario to make a point.
Here in Canada the doctors make the call. If you need something right now you get it right now.
Example: I broke my back in that crash. I got an MRI and two CT scans during my treatments and follow up. If I walk into my doctors office and tell him I want an MRI it's gona be two years and a CT is several months to half a year. If I am injured bad and a doctor knows it then I get in right away. It's called triage. Those who need it most urgently get treated first and the rest of us can FN wait. So I would say your boys are just trying to scare you. Follow the money.


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Another point: Who do you think is paying for those who can't afford to get health insurance ??
That's right YOU. You pay for it by high insurance premiums. So at the end of the day YOU are paying for the welfare losers and illegal immigrants when they go to the hospital. Your paying for healthcare anyways whether you like it or not. Now add in something like the issue that happened to a member here who got run into by someone that had no auto insurance. Now it's on his own dime for the hospital bills so I hope he had good insurance and I hope the insurance didn't have a "CLAUSE" in it. The good guy gets screwed again. I love the USA, especially when I go to Vegas to play in the world series, I wouldn't live down there just because of the health insurance issue.


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canadian oddy wrote:
Hey Hoser: 4. Hillary wants to expand Obamacare!
Can you or any other American please explain to me (Canadians) the issue you guys have against national healthcare ??
As a Canadian we prize our "free" healthcare system. Any politician wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole here because they know if you F with it your gone in the next and any future re-election.
We know it's not free because I pay at least 50% taxes by the time it's all said and done. My pay cheque reflects this. My recent accident that broke my back cost me $80. And that's for two helicopters and more than a week stay in hospital and follow up care. In America you are bankrupt. I have difficulty with working my whole life for what I got only to declare bankruptcy because I got hurt and had to pay hospital bills. In the states you can read stories all the time about this because the insurance companies find loop holes or word the policies so they don't have to pay the full shot. If some goof steals more than 50% of my pay cheque and then tries to steal the rest for medical bills then I am going to get my gun, F it.


I'll try:
Most all my family is from Canada. I'm French Canadian. I still have many cousins who live there. One of my cousins needed knee surgery. 6 months later he got it. I needed knee surgery here in America. 2 weeks later I got it. Total out of pocket??? $$00. I needed back surgery and got it same week and it wasn't life threatening. Total out of pocket??? 00. My health insurance cost before Obummer Care? about $400.00 a month. Now?? $1,200.00 a month. That's nationalization for you. In one of your later posts you kind of answered your own question. We get our needs taken care of promptly whether it's life threatening or not. With our national plan our rates have gone up and quality and wait times have gone down. Everyone was insured BEFORE Obummer care. If you didn't have insurance prior, (AKA, broke, illegal, whatever reason you had for not having insurance), you simply walked into the ER. They don't turn anyone down. Everyone else like you who has something to lose had insurance. Heck, even you CO can walk into one of our hospitals no problem and be seen. Oh, and I keep 85% of my paycheck.


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Duneit wrote:
canadian oddy wrote:
Hey Hoser: 4. Hillary wants to expand Obamacare!
Can you or any other American please explain to me (Canadians) the issue you guys have against national healthcare ??
As a Canadian we prize our "free" healthcare system. Any politician wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole here because they know if you F with it your gone in the next and any future re-election.
We know it's not free because I pay at least 50% taxes by the time it's all said and done. My pay cheque reflects this. My recent accident that broke my back cost me $80. And that's for two helicopters and more than a week stay in hospital and follow up care. In America you are bankrupt. I have difficulty with working my whole life for what I got only to declare bankruptcy because I got hurt and had to pay hospital bills. In the states you can read stories all the time about this because the insurance companies find loop holes or word the policies so they don't have to pay the full shot. If some goof steals more than 50% of my pay cheque and then tries to steal the rest for medical bills then I am going to get my gun, F it.


I'll try:
Most all my family is from Canada. I'm French Canadian. I still have many cousins who live there. One of my cousins needed knee surgery. 6 months later he got it. I needed knee surgery here in America. 2 weeks later I got it. Total out of pocket??? $$00. I needed back surgery and got it same week and it wasn't life threatening. Total out of pocket??? 00. My health insurance cost before Obummer Care? about $400.00 a month. Now?? $1,200.00 a month. That's nationalization for you. In one of your later posts you kind of answered your own question. We get our needs taken care of promptly whether it's life threatening or not. With our national plan our rates have gone up and quality and wait times have gone down. Everyone was insured BEFORE Obummer care. If you didn't have insurance prior, (AKA, broke, illegal, whatever reason you had for not having insurance), you simply walked into the ER. They don't turn anyone down. Everyone else like you who has something to lose had insurance. Heck, even you CO can walk into one of our hospitals no problem and be seen. Oh, and I keep 85% of my paycheck.


Well that sounds reasonable to me.
The only thing I disagree with you on is the ER part. If I walked into ER yes I would be treated but like I said above they would come after me for the money would they not ?? That's my whole issue with the American health system. If you got no insurance (for what ever reason) they want to get paid and come after you. If you lost your job down there and couldn't afford the insurance anymore they would come after your house. Am I wrong on this ??


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canadian oddy wrote:
Duneit wrote:
canadian oddy wrote:
Hey Hoser: 4. Hillary wants to expand Obamacare!
Can you or any other American please explain to me (Canadians) the issue you guys have against national healthcare ??
As a Canadian we prize our "free" healthcare system. Any politician wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole here because they know if you F with it your gone in the next and any future re-election.
We know it's not free because I pay at least 50% taxes by the time it's all said and done. My pay cheque reflects this. My recent accident that broke my back cost me $80. And that's for two helicopters and more than a week stay in hospital and follow up care. In America you are bankrupt. I have difficulty with working my whole life for what I got only to declare bankruptcy because I got hurt and had to pay hospital bills. In the states you can read stories all the time about this because the insurance companies find loop holes or word the policies so they don't have to pay the full shot. If some goof steals more than 50% of my pay cheque and then tries to steal the rest for medical bills then I am going to get my gun, F it.


I'll try:
Most all my family is from Canada. I'm French Canadian. I still have many cousins who live there. One of my cousins needed knee surgery. 6 months later he got it. I needed knee surgery here in America. 2 weeks later I got it. Total out of pocket??? $$00. I needed back surgery and got it same week and it wasn't life threatening. Total out of pocket??? 00. My health insurance cost before Obummer Care? about $400.00 a month. Now?? $1,200.00 a month. That's nationalization for you. In one of your later posts you kind of answered your own question. We get our needs taken care of promptly whether it's life threatening or not. With our national plan our rates have gone up and quality and wait times have gone down. Everyone was insured BEFORE Obummer care. If you didn't have insurance prior, (AKA, broke, illegal, whatever reason you had for not having insurance), you simply walked into the ER. They don't turn anyone down. Everyone else like you who has something to lose had insurance. Heck, even you CO can walk into one of our hospitals no problem and be seen. Oh, and I keep 85% of my paycheck.


Well that sounds reasonable to me.
The only thing I disagree with you on is the ER part. If I walked into ER yes I would be treated but like I said above they would come after me for the money would they not ?? That's my whole issue with the American health system. If you got no insurance (for what ever reason) they want to get paid and come after you. If you lost your job down there and couldn't afford the insurance anymore they would come after your house. Am I wrong on this ??


No easy answer to a complicated topic (healthcare) first your never going to provide healthcare coverage to everybody inside the USA all this current blather on about how many more Americans now have health insurance IMO is pointless their is no shortage of info on obamacare do your own research see what you think https://www.google.com/search?q=obamaca ... 8&oe=utf-8 I have yet to find anybody that is happy with their obamacare.

I think Trump has a few good ideas on lowering the cost by removing some state boundary issues, I don't follow it too close because I have my own insurance through my union.


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CO. Re read my post. Anyone who goes into the er has no job, illegal, or other. Those types have nothing so the hospitals write it off. Those of us who have insurance pay more because of this.


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