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Poofkaboom Hell KABLAM!!!
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Author:  scpilot66 [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:00 pm ]
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Hey guys, well I toasted the Engine in my long travel.

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Author:  scpilot66 [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:01 pm ]
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Couple more pics.

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Author:  nickRNR [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:09 pm ]
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Oh the carnage! Sorry for the bad luck. Hope the rebuild aint too costly
Author:  mudbogger [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:09 pm ]
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Steve what can i do to help?
Author:  scpilot66 [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:30 pm ]
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nickRNR wrote:
Oh the carnage! Sorry for the bad luck. Hope the rebuild aint too costly


Thank you Nick, shoot man I am figuring I will need a whole second body you know 4 arms and 3 legs. LOL.

Mudbogger wrote:
Steve what can i do to help?


Look at this Gentleman here fellas, been through some very rough stuff and some very tough losses and still there for his friends. Top notch my Friend!!!

Good to here from you Gregg, I hope all is getting put back together. I am very sorry for your losses.

I have found a new right crank case and the parts to rebuild the crank, I am going to take the top end off to take a look see but I will not know the total damage until Hoser gets in there.
Author:  rarerat [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:30 pm ]
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Blew it up trying to catch me right?? Oh wait you were in front... ahh... well... never mind.. :-)

All joking aside, this truly sucks & hope it runs better than ever when it goes back together. If there is anything I can do to help, let me know.
Author:  scpilot66 [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:44 pm ]
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rarerat wrote:
Blew it up trying to catch me right?? Oh wait you were in front... ahh... well... never mind.. :-)

All joking aside, this truly sucks & hope it runs better than ever when it goes back together. If there is anything I can do to help, let me know.


Thanks buddy, I will give you a hollar this week.
Author:  rmesser [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:49 pm ]
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How was it running before it blew? I've got extra top end Honda gaskets if your interested, but looks like you will need a complete set. No extra lower gaskets. Looking forward to hosers csi. You'll be up and running before long. Who's going to rebuild your crank?
Author:  fully [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:22 am ]
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i feel your pain. i broke the cylinder skirt in my 360. hope you can get it up and running and theres not too much damage.
Author:  hoser [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:40 am ]
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The piston broke?

How many hours on the piston?

How many RPMs were you running?

What a mess.

Cant really tell in the pics but I bet that hole in the crank cases can be welded up and repaired I have seen this type damage before.
Author:  stix [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:42 pm ]
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Holy smokes sorry for the Poof Kabob!! Happens to the best of us. Let me know if I can help Steve.
Author:  scpilot66 [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:45 pm ]
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rmesser wrote:
How was it running before it blew? I've got extra top end Honda gaskets if your interested, but looks like you will need a complete set. No extra lower gaskets. Looking forward to hosers csi. You'll be up and running before long. Who's going to rebuild your crank?


Hello Rich, she was running awesome all day. If the crank needs rebuilt which I think it will I plan to see if Speedchaser will do it or who ever Hoser recommends.

fully wrote:
i feel your pain. i broke the cylinder skirt in my 360. hope you can get it up and running and theres not too much damage.


Thank you Sir, that stinks I think the skirts are OK on mine thank goodness. Good luck on yours as well.

hoser wrote:
The piston broke?

How many hours on the piston?

How many RPMs were you running?

What a mess.

Cant really tell in the pics but I bet that hole in the crank cases can be welded up and repaired I have seen this type damage before.


Howdy Sir, yep the piston broke good. I am not to sure how many hours were on the piston, I do know that the previous owner had replaced it about 2 years before I bought it. My RPM gauge was not working, I do have a no rev. limiter CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition).

Mess, yup that's the word. My wife keeps asking me why I am smiling when talking about this, she does not realize that the smile is covering up the tears. LOL!!!

Do you think Speedchaser is who I should contact about repairing the case if it's repairable and rebuilding the crank.

Here are some more pics.

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Author:  fully [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:50 pm ]
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wow..cant believe that. where never seen a piston like that before
Author:  scpilot66 [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:55 pm ]
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stix wrote:
Holy smokes sorry for the Poof Kabob!! Happens to the best of us. Let me know if I can help Steve.


Hey Marc, blew it up good didn't I. Thank you Sir, much appreciated.

fully wrote:
wow..cant believe that. where never seen a piston like that before


Haha, yep me either.

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Author:  shoubadaba [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:22 pm ]
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A little jb weld and put it back in should be like new lol. Serious though man that truely sucks. The saying goes ( ran great til it blew up).
Author:  scpilot66 [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:31 pm ]
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shoubadaba wrote:
A little jb weld and put it back in should be like new lol. Serious though man that truely sucks. The saying goes ( ran great til it blew up).


JB weld hell, I got me some superd glue and lots of sillycone. LOL. Thank you.
Author:  stix [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:21 am ]
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Just don't be a silicone homo :shock: as Hoser puts it
Author:  canadian oddy [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:44 am ]
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What ya runin for fuel ---- C4
Author:  Randman [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:47 am ]
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I don't believe I have ever seen a piston destroyed that bad in a 2 smoke!

Rand
Author:  pilotpete1 [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:37 am ]
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Wow that piston is impressive Steve!!! never seen quite that bad before!!!
Author:  scpilot66 [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:00 am ]
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stix wrote:
Just don't be a silicone homo :shock: as Hoser puts it

Hey now, watch it buddy!!! LOL.

canadian oddy wrote:
What ya runin for fuel ---- C4

Shhhhh, it's a secret!!!

Randman wrote:
I don't believe I have ever seen a piston destroyed that bad in a 2 smoke!

Rand

Well Rand, I pride my self on doing things right so if I am going to blow something up bi golly I'm gonna blow it up good. LOL.

pilotpete1 wrote:
Wow that piston is impressive Steve!!! never seen quite that bad before!!!

Dang right buddy, when I make an offering to the GOD OF SPEED I want to get his attention!!! LOL.

All kidding aside, thank you guys for all the replies.
Author:  hoser [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:22 am ]
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WTF never seen a piston that bad on a single cylinder 2 stroke before I have seen them that bad on a multi cylinder where the other cylinder kept dragging the bad piston until it locked up.

Also seen a 400EX piston that bad after it quit running the owner towed it about 5 miles trying to start it until it locked up.

After its running again I would like to see what RPM its running.

After I get it apart and see the damage will let you know on welding the cases I bought a new welder and can weld aluminum now just don't know if the gasket surface will need machined or not, pretty sure their is no welding that piston :-)
Author:  Jordant [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:34 am ]
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Hoser a few of us were kinda hoping to hear your csi Engine analysis.

I mean was there something in particular that killed it? seal leak? lack of oil?
Author:  hoser [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:37 am ]
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Jordant wrote:
Hoser a few of us were kinda hoping to hear your csi Engine analysis.

I mean was there something in particular that killed it? seal leak? lack of oil?



Usually when a piston skirt does that its because of too many hours then gets work harden then brittle then cracks then breaks up just thought it would have lost compression or spark and quit running before getting that bad.
Author:  hoser [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:58 pm ]
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Picked up Steves Engine while I was in town brought home for a rebuilding, mag side case has a chunk broke out the clutch side case has a crack both will get welded.

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