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Author:  hoser [ Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:25 pm ]
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"Hey there little spud go get daddy a BFH and a beer"


"2 weeks ago I couldnt spell mechanix today I am one"

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:25 pm ]
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hmm

Chisel on

Chisel off



Torque whats that?

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:28 pm ]
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Used the BFH and a big log under the shade tree to change the rod?

Wait until you see the gasket surfaces...

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Author:  PilotHawK [ Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:59 am ]
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the "S" indicates that the bearing is stainless steel. http://www.bearingworks.com/bearing1.htm

Author:  hoser [ Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:17 am ]
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Wonder why only on one side?

Temperature thing?

Mudbogger's Engine didnt have a "S" bearing..

Got the piston today BTW thanks.

Author:  PilotHawK [ Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:40 am ]
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glad to hear you got it. How did your crank look when you got it out?

Author:  hoser [ Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:20 pm ]
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Crank looks good except for the parts of the roller cage that are missing, it looks
and feels good with no wear you can feel and the side clearance is spot on, this
is looking through the oil slot once apart it might show more when I can hold the
rod and pin in my hands, right now all I can say is the roller cage failed but why
I dunno, don't seem to be a lubrication issue or over heating, vibration? Heat
cycles?

Author:  DC [ Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:13 pm ]
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I am by no means a bearing expert...acually I don't know anything about them, but I have a few customers that are...they all tell me that Nachi is their "economy" line. Whenever I ask them to get me a few bearings they will not send me a Nachi bearing and always direct me to NTN or Koyo.

Why do you think Honda would use Nachi in there Engine and Koyo and NSK for thier other bearing applications? Whats up with that?

I was at my warehouse today and started looking at all the bearings I had, every Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki bearing I had was either Koyo or NSK...not a single nachi bearing.

Author:  hoser [ Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:23 pm ]
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DC wrote:
I am by no means a bearing expert...acually I don't know anything about them, but I have a few customers that are...they all tell me that Nachi is their "economy" line. Whenever I ask them to get me a few bearings they will not send me a Nachi bearing and always direct me to NTN or Koyo.

Why do you think Honda would use Nachi in there Engine and Koyo and NSK for thier other bearing applications? Whats up with that?

I was at my warehouse today and started looking at all the bearings I had, every Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki bearing I had was either Koyo or NSK...not a single nachi bearing.


Dunno why Honda is using them, in your pile of parts you have any 6306 C3 bearings
or a S6306 C3 ?

Author:  DC [ Sun Mar 28, 2004 9:30 pm ]
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sorry no 6306 that I could find. If you want I can get you a price on a set from NTN.

Author:  hoser [ Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:07 pm ]
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Here is a quick update I cut .020 off my squish, this cleaned up most of the damage
there is a few small spots I didnt chase at this time, this dome was used with a .024
copper head gasket so before I cut any more I need to check the actual squish
clearance on my assembled Engine before I can do any more to this dome,
if I need to take another .005 out of the squish to get the proper clearance then all
the marks should be removed.

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Author:  Odyknuck [ Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:33 pm ]
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The head cleaned up pretty good. What type of radius tool are you using in your lathe?

Author:  hoser [ Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:49 pm ]
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No radius tool yet, if I can find one at a reasonable price some day I might
buy one for now I have to wing it and do it the old fashion way heh

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Author:  Odyknuck [ Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:53 pm ]
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that's a pretty slick ideal. You doing it by hand with lapping compound. What did you use to do the combustion chamber.

Author:  hoser [ Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:25 pm ]
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I rough it out free hand using a standard cutter then I have a large radius cutter I use
then sand paper, takes me 10x longer than if I had the radius tool but I don't do enough
of them to justify buying one new, I seen a few sites where guys made their own but
just never messed with it, another 10 years maybe I will find a used CNC at a good
price hehe

Author:  hoser [ Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:11 am ]
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Ok I did a little more on the dome for my head, I am trying something I have never used
but Macdizzy and a few others that hang out at his message board have tried this with good
success.

With my dome being damaged in the poofkaboom I had to remove material from the
squish to clean up the damage this increases the squish thickness (distance between
the top of the piston and outside area of the head) by removing the thickness of the
head gasket I was using I can still use this dome but that means I something to seal
the combustion pressures from the coolant and keep the coolant out of the combustion
chamber, I used a o ring on another dome and after 60 hrs use I didnt like the wear
I was seeing on the o ring itself, the ring looked as if it was scrubbing inside the groove,
it could be the guy from pro design cut the groove to big maybe it was a low quality
o ring?

This time around I will be using a copper o ring made from copper wire, first I had to
custom grind a cutter to make the groove then put the copper in the groove until
the ends meet so I can judge the length, cut file and sand the ends down to they
mate perfectly, once all this is done I clamped the dome to a plate and seen there
was .017 gap between the head and plate so I lapped it down this also added surface
area to the the copper o ring, currently i have .010 between the dome and plate
before I lap it down more I want to put it on a cylinder and torque it up then try
to measure the gap through the bottom of the cylinder.

The red arrow is pointing to where the ends of the copper meet up.

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Author:  hoser [ Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:14 am ]
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The wire and before the groove was cut.

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Author:  hoser [ Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:18 am ]
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Measuring the gap,my make shift way of simulating torque, I don't think the shell
once torque will squish the copper .010

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Author:  hoser [ Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:28 pm ]
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Going back together

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Author:  hoser [ Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:29 pm ]
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More

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