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 Post subject: Re: Pilot Engine CSI -
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:36 pm 
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Mudbogger wrote:
SERVICE ORDER for this motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) ((starter motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) or a fan motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? ))?)) and stock for future projects:

Your Cart
Part Number Quantity Description List Price Your Price! Order
12191-HE0-000 4 GASKET, CYLINDER $25 $19.52
14132-KAE-000 4 GASKET A, REED VALVE $11.84 $9.24
94301-14200 6 PIN, DOWEL (14X20) $7.32 $6.24
90441-706-000 4 WASHER (6MM) $4 $2.84
90454-KA4-000 4 WASHER (8X13) $9.16 $7.16
94301-10160 6 PIN, DOWEL (10X16) $7.08 $6.06
91203-KS6-004 4 OIL SEAL (30X45X8) $43.48 $33.96
91003-HE0-003 2 BEARING $29.86 $23.32
90701-HE0-000 6 PIN, DOWEL (10X28) $21.84 $17.04
94301-12200 4 PIN, DOWEL (12X20) $4.72 $4.04
91001-KA4-003 4 BEARING (12X28X7) $53.76 $41.96
91201-148-003 4 OIL SEAL (12X22X5) $13.16 $10.28
91002-HE0-004 4 BEARING (S6205) $52.72 $41.2
12191-HE0-000 4 GASKET, CYLINDER $25 $19.52

Totals :

$308.94

$242.38
YOU SAVE: $66.56

I tryed to order part number 90437-HE0-000 WASHER but it would not take it online for some reason. I'll have to call tomorrow.



Are those gaskets and the 10x28 dowel pin available? I hope so mud. :shock: please update when/if service honda contacts you.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:51 pm 
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I purchased a set of Engine mounting plates and bolts/nuts already from a private seller and he is shipping them direct to you Hoser. Please look for them and let me know when they arrive.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:38 pm 
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rmesser wrote:
Mudbogger wrote:
SERVICE ORDER for this Engine and stock for future projects:

UPDATED 2/22/2012

Your Cart
Part Number Quantity Description List Price Your Price! Order
12191-HE0-000 4 GASKET, CYLINDER $25 $19.52
14132-KAE-000 4 GASKET A, REED VALVE $11.84 $9.24
94301-14200 6 PIN, DOWEL (14X20) $7.32 $6.24 DISCONTINUED
90441-706-000 4 WASHER (6MM) $4 $2.84 DISCONTINUED
90454-KA4-000 4 WASHER (8X13) $9.16 $7.16 DISCONTINUED
94301-10160 6 PIN, DOWEL (10X16) $7.08 $6.06 DISCONTINUED
91203-KS6-004 4 OIL SEAL (30X45X8) $43.48 $33.96 DISCONTINUED
91003-HE0-003 2 BEARING $29.86 $23.32
90701-HE0-000 6 PIN, DOWEL (10X28) $21.84 $17.04
94301-12200 4 PIN, DOWEL (12X20) $4.72 $4.04 DISCONTINUED
91001-KA4-003 4 BEARING (12X28X7) $53.76 $41.96 DISCONTINUED
91201-148-003 4 OIL SEAL (12X22X5) $13.16 $10.28
91002-HE0-004 4 BEARING (S6205) $52.72 $41.2 DISCONTINUED
12191-HE0-000 4 GASKET, CYLINDER $25 $19.52

Totals :

$308.94

$242.38
YOU SAVE: $66.56

I tryed to order part number 90437-HE0-000 WASHER but it would not take it online for some reason. I'll have to call tomorrow.



Are those gaskets and the 10x28 dowel pin available? I hope so mud. :shock: please update when/if service honda contacts you.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:41 pm 
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ok will do. I know the gasket sets are discontinued.
Hoser did that jug have a repair on the outside of it?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:08 pm 
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Ton of stuff is discontinued Hoser off that list.SERVICE emailed at list. Not pretty.
I bought some left side crank 6306 C3 SKF bearings and direct shipped to you so please look for them. I'll get the discontinued list up here. Really sucks.

UPDATED LIST ABOVE IN THREAD FROM 2/22/2012


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:40 am 
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Mudbogger wrote:
Ton of stuff is discontinued Hoser off that list.SERVICE emailed at list. Not pretty.
I bought some left side crank 6306 C3 SKF bearings and direct shipped to you so please look for them. I'll get the discontinued list up here but all of the gaskets on that list are discontinued including the cylinder base gasket. Really sucks.



Its only going to get worse, looks like its aftermarket gasket sets from now on.

That cylinder had welding on it not really sure why but its a nice welding job don't see it being a problem, will post pics later the pics I took were just to crappy to post I need to take them in sun when it comes out I will take some.


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 Post subject: Re: Pilot Engine CSI -
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:52 pm 
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rmesser wrote:
Mudbogger wrote:
SERVICE ORDER for this motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) ((starter motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) or a fan motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? ))?)) ((starter motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) ((starter motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) or a fan motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? ))?)) or a fan motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) ((starter motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) or a fan motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? ))?))?)) and stock for future projects:

Your Cart
Part Number Quantity Description List Price Your Price! Order
12191-HE0-000 4 GASKET, CYLINDER $25 $19.52
14132-KAE-000 4 GASKET A, REED VALVE $11.84 $9.24
94301-14200 6 PIN, DOWEL (14X20) $7.32 $6.24
90441-706-000 4 WASHER (6MM) $4 $2.84
90454-KA4-000 4 WASHER (8X13) $9.16 $7.16
94301-10160 6 PIN, DOWEL (10X16) $7.08 $6.06
91203-KS6-004 4 OIL SEAL (30X45X8) $43.48 $33.96
91003-HE0-003 2 BEARING $29.86 $23.32
90701-HE0-000 6 PIN, DOWEL (10X28) $21.84 $17.04
94301-12200 4 PIN, DOWEL (12X20) $4.72 $4.04
91001-KA4-003 4 BEARING (12X28X7) $53.76 $41.96
91201-148-003 4 OIL SEAL (12X22X5) $13.16 $10.28
91002-HE0-004 4 BEARING (S6205) $52.72 $41.2
12191-HE0-000 4 GASKET, CYLINDER $25 $19.52

Totals :

$308.94

$242.38
YOU SAVE: $66.56

I tryed to order part number 90437-HE0-000 WASHER but it would not take it online for some reason. I'll have to call tomorrow.



Are those gaskets and the 10x28 dowel pin available? I hope so mud. :shock: please update when/if service honda contacts you.


See updated list above but yes they are both available still. PHEW!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:06 pm 
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I hate to mention this but I might have to start hoarding Pilot parts soon, it is really becoming harder and harder to actually take the time to cross referrance parts on other Honda Models and search for items via Ebay, private sellers, etc. My time after work these days are spent on the computer doing such. I really have a great appreciation for those who do it for the group.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:54 pm 
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I thought 90701-HE0-000 was discontinued 10x28 dowel?


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9328&start=0&hilit=399" ."..


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:02 pm 
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The 10x16 dowel is discontinued, my invoice came in from SERVICE and the 10x28 are included in my purchase. The order shipped today so expected delivery is Feb 28th. I'll let you know if indeed I get them.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:02 pm 
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Ok found this site tonight. They seem to have most of these discontinued dowels we need for the bottom ends.

http://www.hondapartsnow.com/

94301-12200
PIN, DOWEL (12X20)
94301-14200
PIN, DOWEL (14X20)
94301-10160
PIN, DOWEL (10X16)

The application of the site is automotive but the dowels are the same size and diameter. I ordered all 3 of the dowels listed as discontinued in this thread,we will see if they do indeed come in. I am hopeful.Anything helps right?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:24 pm 
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Mudbogger wrote:
Ok found this site tonight. They seem to have most of these discontinued dowels we need for the bottom ends.

http://www.hondapartsnow.com/" ."..

94301-12200
PIN, DOWEL (12X20)
94301-14200
PIN, DOWEL (14X20)
94301-10160
PIN, DOWEL (10X16)

The application of the site is automotive but the dowels are the same size and diameter. I ordered all 3 of the dowels listed as discontinued in this thread,we will see if they do indeed come in. I am hopeful.Anything helps right?



Thanks if they are right and will work I will order a dozen each lol seems every Engine I touch I find at least two bad ones, years ago I bought 12 each for the Pilot Engine and 6 each for the 350 Engine time to restock while I can last time I stocked up it was like 85 bux :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Pilot Engine CSI -
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:02 pm 
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Mudbogger wrote:
rmesser wrote:
Mudbogger wrote:
SERVICE ORDER for this Engine and stock for future projects:

UPDATED 2/27/2012

Your Cart
Part Number Quantity Description List Price Your Price! Order
12191-HE0-000 4 GASKET, CYLINDER $25 $19.52
14132-KAE-000 4 GASKET A, REED VALVE $11.84 $9.24
94301-14200 6 PIN, DOWEL (14X20) $7.32 $6.24 DISCONTINUED GOT ALL 6
90441-706-000 4 WASHER (6MM) $4 $2.84 DISCONTINUED GOT ALL 4
90454-KA4-000 4 WASHER (8X13) $9.16 $7.16 DISCONTINUEDGOT ALL 4
94301-10160 6 PIN, DOWEL (10X16) $7.08 $6.06 DISCONTINUED GOT ALL 6
91203-KS6-004 4 OIL SEAL (30X45X8) $43.48 $33.96 DISCONTINUED GOT ALL 4
91003-HE0-003 2 BEARING $29.86 $23.32
90701-HE0-000 6 PIN, DOWEL (10X28) $21.84 $17.04
94301-12200 4 PIN, DOWEL (12X20) $4.72 $4.04 DISCONTINUED GOT ALL 4
91001-KA4-003 4 BEARING (12X28X7) $53.76 $41.96 DISCONTINUED GOT ALL 4
91201-148-003 4 OIL SEAL (12X22X5) $13.16 $10.28 GOT 4 PART # 91201-965-00 12X22X5
91002-HE0-004 4 BEARING (S6205) $52.72 $41.2 DISCONTINUEDGOT ALL 4
12191-HE0-000 4 GASKET, CYLINDER $25 $19.52

Totals :

$308.94

$242.38
YOU SAVE: $66.56

I tryed to order part number 90437-HE0-000 WASHER but it would not take it online for some reason. I'll have to call tomorrow.



Are those gaskets and the 10x28 dowel pin available? I hope so mud. :shock: please update when/if service honda contacts you.


Ok here we go.
Got a box from SERVICE HONDA today. Everything they told me that was discontinued and listed in this thread ACTUALLY came in today!!!
I dunno what they have got over there but I will update the list above with the items that ARE NOT DISCONTINUED!!
I have no idea what goes on at SERVICE HONDA but it pays to just order the parts anyway. I wish they could get there act together sometimes as I thought these were never going to be found again!!!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:06 pm 
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I'm glad to see you got what you ordered.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:16 pm 
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LOL ME TOO. And the kicker I just ordered the dowels and some other goodies from another site as listed in the thread,so I should have a good stock pile for future projects!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:25 pm 
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Well its not like you won't use them. Did you get all the gaskets you ordered?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:42 pm 
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got reed gaskets yes, full Engine set is discontinued. I just get the top end kits made by Wiseco or the full VESRAH SET.


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Hoser, L A Sleeve called today they are starting on the cylinder today and it should ship out to you on Friday! Sweet deal! I will mail the Engine parts you asked for here as well by the end of the week too!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:32 pm 
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hoser wrote:
Mudbogger wrote:
Ok found this site tonight. They seem to have most of these discontinued dowels we need for the bottom ends.

http://www.hondapartsnow.com/" .".." .".." .".." .".." ."..

94301-12200
PIN, DOWEL (12X20)
94301-14200
PIN, DOWEL (14X20)
94301-10160
PIN, DOWEL (10X16)

The application of the site is automotive but the dowels are the same size and diameter. I ordered all 3 of the dowels listed as discontinued in this thread,we will see if they do indeed come in. I am hopeful.Anything helps right?



Thanks if they are right and will work I will order a dozen each lol seems every Engine I touch I find at least two bad ones, years ago I bought 12 each for the Pilot Engine and 6 each for the 350 Engine time to restock while I can last time I stocked up it was like 85 bux :shock:


ok fellas, all these dowels did in fact come in today to my house!!!!!.I got 10 of each!!!! Here is a few pictures. I got everything listed here that SERVICE told me was discontinued-especially the 10x16 ones!Hoser order a few????


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:14 am 
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I believe Hoser has assemblied the bottom end already on this Engine. I have forgotten if we were going to bore and install new Piston? I had ordered 2 81mm Wiseco's but this jug may have fallen through the cracks as far as pistons go-did you have the time Hoser to check to see if i I need to order a 80.5 piston kit or did I ship you 1 already from my stock?

OPPS CHECK THAT-Reread the thread and see a 81mm Wiseco was ordered and shipped to you for this cylinder, my apologies sir!


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What did you guys end up doing to the crank? Was it salvageable? just curious. Looks like i got myself out of a lotta work selling you this Engine lol :-)


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:26 am 
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Yes air Speed completely rebuilt the crank, installed new everything. Runout is now within tolerances. Engine cases as well needed some tending too- let Speed post on what he had to do on them.
Oh yeah you saved yourself time and cash for sure! I knew when purchasing it was going to need some help but think in the long run to save the Engine it is well worth the time and cash.


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Mudbogger wrote:
Yes air Speed completely rebuilt the crank, installed new everything. Runout is now within tolerances. Engine cases as well needed some tending too- let Speed post on what he had to do on them.
Oh yeah you saved yourself time and cash for sure! I knew when purchasing it was going to need some help but think in the long run to save the Engine it is well worth the time and cash.



Im happy to see it saved. Now it has a home as part of the Mudbogger fleet :-) Better than sitting outside in the woods of alabama!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:33 pm 
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Yes bottom end is all rebuilt and ready to go I should have the top end hoserized and installed hopefully today or tonight.

New rod installed by Speedchaser
Cases lapped to correct bad weld area by Speedchaser
New crank bearings, seals, the small counter balancer bearing, water pump rebuild, new seals bearing etc.

Top end will be a fresh 81mm bore hone, cylinder hoserized, new Speedchaser cool head with 49cc dome. :-)


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On the water pump rebuild is there anything special to getting the new mechanical seal in? I know the old 1 was a bitch to get out and had what looked like lock tite on it. The new seal has the blue stuff as well. Just asking before I screw up a $45 seal.


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