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 Post subject: FL250 Complete Restore
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:31 pm 
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I will be stripping and rebuilding a yellow machine to stock appearance as close as possible. I am already dismantling piece by piece, and prepping metal for powder coating. I have alot of unanswered questions I hope some people here can answer.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:36 pm 
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Welcome.


That thing doesn't look like it needs a restoration. Unless I missed something?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:17 am 
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Garemie wrote:
Welcome.


That thing doesn't look like it needs a restoration. Unless I missed something?


Agree.
CO

Glass1 wrote:
I will be stripping and rebuilding a yellow machine to stock appearance as close as possible. I am already dismantling piece by piece, and prepping metal for powder coating. I have alot of unanswered questions I hope some people here can answer.


What do ya wana know ??
Lots of very knowledgeable people here. I don't own an FL250 but will try to help.
The site is slow so be prepared to wait for answers sometimes. Many old time members have left and only show up occasionally.
Below is some stuff.

Honda FL250 serial numbers:
1977 FL250 1000001-1011921
1978 FL250 1100001-1112345
1979 FL250 2000001-2012620
1980 TB04 2000001-2006315
1981 TB04 BC400001-BC406324
1982 TB04 CC500001-CC514700
1983 TB04 DC600001-DC617555
1984 TB04 EC700051-EC703225

Click on this thread for more info like a pdf manual etc: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18393&p=177700#p177700


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:18 am 
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By the way welcome.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:33 am 
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I have been stalking you guys for a while. There was no oil in the gear box. There was no gasket I the exhaust. I do have something floating around in the exhaust. Bot for sure what it is yet. Can't look in the end and see whats broke. I will probably cut it apart and see if I can fit it.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:47 am 
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I also feel like I have too much end play on the crank. motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) was "gone through" for a spare machine. It hasnt ran in at lest a year, took me about 20 minutes and I had it running. The more I drove it the better it ran, but I know it had too much oil it it from the gas evaporating. We use these for parades for the shrine. This is my second machine, my last one was 20+ years ago. I bought this one to get back into it.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:29 pm 
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The FL250 gearbox is easy to rebuild. Make sure you inspect the chain per the manual. If the chain breaks it wraps around the lower gear and crack the case. Don't ask me how I know.

Oh ya - that carrier bearing is rusty and needs to be replaced :shock: :-) :-)

I take it the first pictures are your goal, not what you are starting with. Am I correct?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:25 pm 
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The first pictures are the machine I am tearing down. Its a little rough under all that lip stick. Does anyone happen to have a good part number for crank bearings? I would believe that I need a koyo, or a timken.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:31 pm 
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I still have some questions about the exhaust. I have something floating around inside. I don't think this is normal, is there a good spot to cut it open and inspect?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:48 pm 
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The carrier bearing is shot, almost seized actually, it has spun on the axle. I'm torn right now between buying a new axle and running it. There is probably too much clearance at this point, so I'll probably be looking towards a new one.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:19 pm 
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Glass1 wrote:
I still have some questions about the exhaust. I have something floating around inside. I don't think this is normal, is there a good spot to cut it open and inspect?


Don't cut nothing apart -- bore scope it first.
Go see a buddy at an auto shop. They probably got one and will let you look free.

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Does anyone happen to have a good part number for crank bearings? I would believe that I need a koyo, or a timken.


I believe they're a part #6306 standard bearing. You should be able to get these anywhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:12 pm 
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Thanks CO, I didnt think about a bore scope. Ordered bearings today. All gear box bearings, and crank bearings was 155 bucks. A complete gasket set came yesterday. Id like to find a copper head gasket. I feel in the long run I'd be better off with one.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:15 pm 
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I do have a fl250 motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )), with a cr250 top end floating around some where, it came with another fl250 that is built for flat track I believe. But its a basket case. I'll add some pictures of those when I get close to them.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:17 pm 
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I wasn't planning on a complete tear down but I got frustrated today with everything on the front end being bad. And to properly paint it I feel it all needs to come apart.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:03 pm 
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Glass1 wrote:
I wasn't planning on a complete tear down but I got frustrated today with everything on the front end being bad. And to properly paint it I feel it all needs to come apart.






I was at this point in my 84' rebuild. Keep your head up and keep plugging away. Nothing more satisfying then getting in that machine for the first ride when its all done and new again. Good luck and stay healthy!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:08 pm 
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Glass1 wrote:
The carrier bearing is shot, almost seized actually, it has spun on the axle. I'm torn right now between buying a new axle and running it. There is probably too much clearance at this point, so I'll probably be looking towards a new one.



I did a brand new rear axle in my build because of the abuse that it had taken over its life. The durable axle brand was a great purchase for me and was everything they said it was in quality and durability.


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:48 am 
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Maybe I need to start looking for a new axle for the finished product then. I have about 75% of everything sandblasted, going to repowdercoat the cage, and front bumper with black, and clear. New fenders are here, I think at this point I just need to order tie rod ends and it will be all new for moving parts.


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Check the frame for cracks and weld up if any, now is the time before you PC.

My old 77 Fl 250 had cracks.


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