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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:30 am 
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http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/sno/4316415399.html


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:42 am 
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That thing looks huge for a single seater....174 HP should be enough to push it anywhere!

I want one!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:59 am 
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jetting nightmare!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:41 am 
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Drive before you buy, I sat and went or a short ride in Moskitos TAZ if the cockpit is the same on this car then you will have to be about 5'5" tall to be comfortable.

Depending on the condition of the car the price looks right.

Jetting should not be an issue unless ATV Racing has done work on this Engine and made it like their Pilot engines where jetting is finicky.

If it was mine the first thing I would do is build a air box setup like I run on my Pilot so it has dual filters and you can choke down the air flow like on my Pilot air box, jetting from bottom to top by restricting air flow on cold days, and like the Pilot or my other two strokes engines jet the thing so its right on or slightly on the lean side at 0 feet elevation at 50 degrees then your jetting is good to 5500 feet elevation without jet changes, fouling plugs or leaving a trail of smoke for others to choke on.

Rebuilds wont be fun lol $$$ good filter maintenance quality oil should allow you YEARS between rebuilds.

Wonder why it was setup as a single seat?

Long travel taz car. King dual bypass, reverse box, power steering, clean title, 1000cc artic cat motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) 174hp. Clean title. Will trade for muscle car, crawler, jeep, duramax, cummins, toy hauler, wake board boat, bass boat, rzr, etc


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:36 pm 
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what in gods name are those cage bars doing on the sides?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:02 pm 
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Dave-Co wrote:
what in gods name are those cage bars doing on the sides?


Steel tube nets they keep other tires from entering the drivers compartment lol

I have not seen them on other TAZ cars.

I have seen intrusion bars added to the front never the sides....

https://www.google.com/search?q=atv+rac ... 67&bih=657


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:09 pm 
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Triangulation, makes the cage nice and strong so it does not fold/bend like a drakart one time use cage. That is a weak area on a cage. Some sanctioning bodies will require bars such as/similar to that design to stiffen the cage.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:55 am 
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King Kx wrote:
Triangulation, makes the cage nice and strong so it does not fold/bend like a drakart one time use cage. That is a weak area on a cage. Some sanctioning bodies will require bars such as/similar to that design to stiffen the cage.


Show us an example.

https://www.google.com/search?q=race+ca ... 67&bih=657


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:42 am 
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There are several that have added bars to prevent the cage from shifting during a rollover. Take a look at the pics for yourself and you will see. Some use a lot of triangulation others use a small amount in key areas of perpendicular connections.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:26 pm 
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If this is the guy I'm thinking of...he is in a wheelchair and I believe that's why it was made into a single seater. I think the paint on the side (under for sale) is of a skull and spine with bottom of spine broken. Looks like a nice ride but is huge!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:48 am 
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King Kx wrote:
There are several that have added bars to prevent the cage from shifting during a rollover. Take a look at the pics for yourself and you will see. Some use a lot of triangulation others use a small amount in key areas of perpendicular connections.


I have looked never seen anything close to that setup.

https://www.google.com/search?q=race+ca ... 67&bih=657


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:16 pm 
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Really, I see three setups that are similar to that design in the first two rows in the link you provided. Are you building a machine and need data, specs, opinions? If so, please post a pic of your ideas/project.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:36 pm 
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That has to be fun to rip around in!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:44 pm 
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I called on the car and its been sold.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:00 am 
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King Kx wrote:
Really, I see three setups that are similar to that design in the first two rows in the link you provided. Are you building a machine and need data, specs, opinions? If so, please post a pic of your ideas/project.


No project here whats that have to do with me asking to see pics of others with the same design I have looked at hundreds of cages over the years havent seen a single one like that yet you made it sound as if its normal to have intrusion bars welded over the sides of a cage like seen on the Taz I just wanted to see examples, I then searched the internet and looked at hundreds more and cant find them.

If I was going to build something I would buy the rule book for the race sanctioning I was going to race under then build my cage to meet the sanction racing I would also by rule books for any other sanction racing that my project might possibly ever race in to ensure it would comply with them too I am not some fool like you see on the minibuggy site shooting from the hip thinking I am smarter than all these guys that build race cages for a living that not only COMPLY with race rules but have proven to pass all the tech inspections and have a history of surviving a crash and or wrecks.

Seeing the Drakarts RZR's fail miserably in crashes should be enough for any buggy builder to understand their is more to bending and welding tubing to a cage :-)

Still cant figure out what me building something or NOT has to do with the question I asked not sure why your doing the dance, it was a simple 'show me'.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:05 am 
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I did show you, I posted up a pic of two well proven chassis designs, both with what you call intrusion bars. Does this taz car have a little different configuration - yes, but it still serves the same function. (maybe had to be configured differently for a paralyzed driver to get in and out a little easier) I am not sure why you are having trouble understanding that a large opening on a cage could use bracing to give the cage strength, whether it be front, top or sides.
You have never seen door bars on a roll cage for a car?
You never seen the double v bars down the front windshield area of a trophy truck?
The transverse bar across the roof of most cages?

Why do I ask you if you are doing a project? I have better, bigger, more important things in life to do other than search my rule books, scan the images and rules into your site when you have no purpose to use the information other than to constantly negate what I have said. If you came to me and asked for the info for the purpose of your safety, project etc, then I would absolutely help you. That clearly is not your purpose in this post.

While I waste time looking for pics, scanning in rule books etc, can you post up info showing how suspension arms with angle iron welded to them are stronger and why? I have searched and searched yet, I find no pics or suspension arms by design with angle iron welded to them, not one manufacture offers this from the factory.

Last call was an hour ago, you are dancing by yourself.


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King Kx wrote:
I did show you, I posted up a pic of two well proven chassis designs, both with what you call intrusion bars. Does this taz car have a little different configuration - yes, but it still serves the same function. (maybe had to be configured differently for a paralyzed driver to get in and out a little easier) I am not sure why you are having trouble understanding that a large opening on a cage could use bracing to give the cage strength, whether it be front, top or sides.
You have never seen door bars on a roll cage for a car?
You never seen the double v bars down the front windshield area of a trophy truck?
The transverse bar across the roof of most cages?

Why do I ask you if you are doing a project? I have better, bigger, more important things in life to do other than search my rule books, scan the images and rules into your site when you have no purpose to use the information other than to constantly negate what I have said. If you came to me and asked for the info for the purpose of your safety, project etc, then I would absolutely help you. That clearly is not your purpose in this post.

While I waste time looking for pics, scanning in rule books etc, can you post up info showing how suspension arms with angle iron welded to them are stronger and why? I have searched and searched yet, I find no pics or suspension arms by design with angle iron welded to them, not one manufacture offers this from the factory.

Last call was an hour ago, you are dancing by yourself.


WTF is your problem?

Where are these examples your talking about you post a thumbnail picture that is about 3/4"x3/4" on my screen heck the picture is only 2.84 KiB it appears to have two off road cars in it but I cant really tell.

I cant understand why you have your panties in a wad.

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Steel tube nets they keep other tires from entering the drivers compartment lol

I have not seen them on other TAZ cars.

I have seen intrusion bars added to the front never the sides....


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Triangulation, makes the cage nice and strong so it does not fold/bend like a drakart one time use cage. That is a weak area on a cage. Some sanctioning bodies will require bars such as/similar to that design to stiffen the cage.


Then I asked to see an example simply because I have never seen bracing on ANY frame like that, I still cant find any after looking at hundreds of examples.

So far you have wasted more time dancing if you had any examples or FACTS to present you could have presented them faster than your long rant replies and dialog about nothing.

Whats on that TAZ car is NOT bracing like I have ever seen on any other race frame I have read many race rules over the years about bracing NONE of the rule books showed any examples of bracing like that in that location.

NOW apparently you have seen this type bracing before that's why I said "Show us an example." then provided you with a link that shows hundreds of cage examples.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:08 pm 
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I saw some more info on this cage. Owner was paralyzed, top section of cage tips forward so he could be lowered in from top with a crane. If you look close you can see the pivots and where it catches on top.


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