I'm kinda new to these machines. How do they compare to the lt/rotax pilots. Looks like they are cheaper than buyin a pilot and doin all the Engine/suspension work. Just curious

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Welcome to PilotOdyssey.com, where do you live and ride would be the first question to ask.

Stock Pilots are about 60" does your riding areas support larger machines?

I currently have a Revolt and they are a great ride. Much faster than a pilot. They don't like to turn unless you add a sway bar, but once you do it is a night and day difference! Redline claims between 17'' and 18'' of suspension travel, but I have never tested to see exactly what travel is. Then you have differences like 4 stroke and fuel injection vs. 2 stroke and carbureted which there are pro's and con's to each setup. Revolts have a steering wheel and foot pedals, Pilots have all hand controls. These are just some of the basic differences, obviously there are many many more.

Hello I live in southern oregon and don't currently have a pilot or odyssey. I have owned an fl250 and was thinking about getting another buggy.

I owned 1 here in NJ and for our riding terrain it did not work well, the tight trails were brutal on the arms turning the thing, the Pilot worked much better, but again that's just my personal experiences.
Also they are a wide machine front and rear, so watch your trailer door width if in fact you plan on taking it with a enclosed trailer.Good luck and welcome to the site!!

If your'e planning on going to the dunes in Oregon, you will love the Revolt. but like Mud said, it's not the greatest for trail riding.

Foot controls would be nice. Not sure why Honda thought it would be a good idea for people to have to try to operate throttles and brakes with their arms twisted together in turns on our machines...

Hand controls is the best idea they ever came up with foot controls in a Pilot or Odyssey would suck unless your a midget and tied your legs in place, at over 6' tall I have no idea how I could ever have foot controls in a Pilot and use them, every Drakart I have drove the hardest part of driving one was keeping my foot on the gas, I wish my RZR had hand controls nothing like running 50 mph across the desert trying to maintain throttle control with your feet flopping all over the place, even with the heal pocket they installed on my model it sucks.

Ditto! Especially since it requires little or no seat adjustment to reach the controls, usually. Also, I like the fact that the front and rear brakes can be operated separately. Just my .02

A midget riding a pilot. Lol what an odd mental picture.

I like the hand controls to. It's genius. You can be so much more precise with your hands than clubbing around with your feet. Also lets you use your feet to brace yourself.

Isn't the bouncing why some of the vw rails I've seen have what looks like a roller skate wheel on the throttle pedal? I couldn't imagine trying to drive one slow through bumps.

Given the dimensions of a Ody/pilot, the foot pedals would not work, but they could have designed the chassis to have them.

Steering wheel seems to work fine in a straight line, its just at full lock when you need to move your hand to actuate the throttle that's annoying. And there is extra added complexity of parts to make the brakes work through there.

And I know some will say man up, but would have been nice to have a little softer steering ratio/larger wheel (or a rack and pinion) to make steering easier.

I will only speak for the Pilot since that is the one I have the most experience using, if you have complaints about how hard a stock Pilot steering is then yeah I gotta say man up, start working out, either your weak and need to add some muscle to your upper body or you have a ATV Racing bumps steer kit installed OR you have the wrong off set after market rims on the front and your fighting the leverage ratio that is working against the driver.

The only complaints I have ever had about the Pilot or Odyssey hand controls is riding so much both hands end up being one big blister

With a rack and pinion you have to use force to drive the steering both ways, with the stock steering it will almost drive back straight from a turn (self center) on its own a stock Pilot steers much easier I would say at least 2x easier than a Pilot with a rack and pinion installed, I have driven all 3 types of steering, stock, rack and pinion, bump steer kit from ATV Racing, STOCK is the best/easiest by far.

Once you increase the length of the A arms on a Pilot past a certain point your forced to change to either a rack and pinion or a drag link setup for your steering, adding complexity, weight, more force required by the driver, maintenance, cost etc.

With all the women I have seen drive Pilots I cant remember a single one of them complaining about the steering on a Pilot OR the hand controls.

If you go to the RZR board you see guys by the dozens crying about how hard a RZR-S is to steer and spending 800-1000 bux on power steering, same deal have seen many women driving a RZR-S and I always ask if they think it needs power steering so far the answer has been NO from all of them.

If your Pilot is all stock including the rims I would go through the entire steering system and ensure nothing is rusted up or worn out you might have something bad that is making yours hard to steer.