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Author: | Turbotexas [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:47 pm ] |
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Do you use the fan? does it wear a battery down??? That is my biggest concern with the fan running all day??? |
Author: | Ody_Stable [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:51 pm ] |
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It's still tied into the lighting circuit, but it's been run for two hours straight without an issue. The plan is to put a 170 thermo switch in the bottom line. |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:14 pm ] |
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Ody_Stable wrote: It's still tied into the lighting circuit, but it's been run for two hours straight without an issue.
The plan is to put a 170 thermo switch is the bottom line. I need a link for one of these kits I have heard of something you can put on a hose to read the temp without tapping into the radiator... Where would I find one??? |
Author: | Ody_Stable [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:25 pm ] |
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Put one of these into a brass tee fitting connected to the head with a nipple. http://store.gaugemagazine.com/index.as ... rodID=1925 Make sure the fitting is grounded and run the output to the fan's ground wire. A two terminal switch would be better, but I haven't found a reasonably priced one yet. |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:40 pm ] |
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that will be easier than tapping into the radiator!!! |
Author: | Ody_Stable [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:47 pm ] |
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Search for these part numbers on eBay, I just picked one up for $12.95. AC / DELCO / GM 213-80 AC / DELCO / GM 25036135 AC / DELCO / GM 25037346 AC / DELCO / GM 8993115 AC / DELCO / GM 8993146 AC / DELCO / GM 8993164 AC / DELCO / GM D1885 MOTORCRAFT SWG2053 This one's an even better deal: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cooling- ... dZViewItem Oh, I got the other part numbers by cross referencing the Zirgo part number, so they are basically the same switch. |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:19 am ] |
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BUDDY-CL ... dZViewItem Would something like this work??? and if so what size would it be, 30mm or 38mm? I don't have a radiator in hand to measure??? |
Author: | Ody_Stable [ Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:32 pm ] |
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You want less than 25mm (your hose will be 3/4"-1"), but this looks like a gauge sensor unit not a switch. You should be able to get a threaded brass tee fitting at you local home depot or lowes that would work just fine. My plan is to use one of those with a very short nipple going to the head, hose out the other end to the radiator and the switch in the tee, it should have a good ground that way to. |
Author: | hoser [ Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:07 pm ] |
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38mm is 1.496" or about 1-1/2 " http://www.worldwidemetric.com/metcal.htm |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:34 pm ] |
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I wonder if you could put another T fitting on the other end and install a temp gauge??? |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:33 am ] |
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... &rd=1&rd=1 Needs a little cleaning for cosmetics... for 20.50 can't beat it???? Got this too!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cooling- ... dZViewItem Ody Stable hurry up and get yours fixed up so I can copy you!!! LOL |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:46 am ] |
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Turbotexas wrote: Got this too!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cooling-Level-Temp-SENSOR-Astro-Van-CORVETTE-1990-95_W0QQitemZ220047432648QQihZ012QQcategoryZ46096QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem Ody Stable hurry up and get yours fixed up so I can copy you!!! LOL The more I look at this the more I think it is just a gauge sensor to plug into a water temp gauge??? I think the fan switch should have two prongs to plug into to interupt the circuit when the fan needs to come off??? I have a water temp gauge I bought for my chinese cart, I can salvage and install on the ody... |
Author: | shubey [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:17 pm ] |
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On a couple of the Toyota's I have owned they used single wire fan switches.Not sure how they worked,they were mounted in the radiators which were rubber mounted so not a good ground??? Sorry if this adds any confusion Shubey |
Author: | Ody_Stable [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:54 pm ] |
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The single prong switch gives you a ground when the temp gets to 180. As long as what it's threaded into is grounded........ Wire the hot to the fan without a switch and run the fan's ground wire to the sensor. That's why I'm going to be connecting the brass tee fitting to the head with a nipple which will ground the tee fitting. I was going to bid on the radiator/fan for one of the 250's, but decided against it for now. |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:25 am ] |
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Ody_Stable wrote: The single prong switch gives you a ground when the temp gets to 180.
As long as what it's threaded into is grounded........ Wire the hot to the fan without a switch and run the fan's ground wire to the sensor. That's why I'm going to be connecting the brass tee fitting to the head with a nipple which will ground the tee fitting. I was going to bid on the radiator/fan for one of the 250's, but decided against it for now. I bid on a few of them, but no more than 15.00... finally won one, and total WITH shipping is 20.50. Some of these are asking 50.00 and 21.00 for shipping??? I am at my Mom and Dads house on a "vacation" cause my dad had testicle surgury today. just goofing off and keeping Mom occupied. Hard to do as they are 76 years old!!! |
Author: | bugpac [ Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:39 am ] |
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make sure the fan doesnt draw more amps then the wire etc, most of the time fans are run with a relay.... |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:47 am ] |
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bugpac wrote: make sure the fan doesnt draw more amps then the wire etc, most of the time fans are run with a relay....
??? Do I need to put a fuse in line? I was thinking of going straight off the battery, that way if I turned the key off to talk or whatever, it would still cool to the temp on the sensor... I am thinking the hot goes to one plug on the fan, and the ground is interupted with the switch...then to the other plug??? |
Author: | Ody_Stable [ Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:13 pm ] |
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The automotive fans are much larger and are drawing 10-15 amps. Most all of the motorcycle fans draw less than 2-3 amps, so a 5 to 7.5 amp fuse in the hot lead would be a good idea. Use at least 18 gauge wire, I would use 16, the leads coming out of the fan may be 18-20 though. I am also going to run straight off the battery for the same reason. |
Author: | bugpac [ Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:54 pm ] |
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dunno about the mc fans, i know the gsxr 600 fan runs off a relay, but a relay hoks to the battery yes, then the temp switch turns on the relay, and you cold also rn a manula switch if you like to activate the same relay, 2 switches one circuit... |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:26 am ] |
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bugpac wrote: dunno about the mc fans, i know the gsxr 600 fan runs off a relay, but a relay hoks to the battery yes, then the temp switch turns on the relay, and you cold also rn a manula switch if you like to activate the same relay, 2 switches one circuit...
What is a manula??? Maybe manual, now that I look at it some more... I have been doing crossward puzzles with Dad to pass the time!!!LOL |
Author: | bugpac [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:09 pm ] |
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lmao, as hoser would say, i am a non spell check mutt!!! |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:17 pm ] |
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bugpac wrote: lmao, as hoser would say, i am a non spell check mutt!!!
I am just so proud of myself for figureing it out!!! LOL |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:30 am ] |
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I made it home this evening with my new hillside honda head installed on my 350 Engine!!! I will be going elbows and arsholes over the weekend putting it back in!!! I need to go to autoparts store for fittings, hose and coolant!!! I am stoked!!! I will finally be able to ride with out fretting over blowinga piston!!! Next on the wish list!!! Works Shocks!!! I will try to remember to take some pictures, but will at least get some final install shots!!! |
Author: | Ody_Stable [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:50 pm ] |
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Blowing a piston or seizing won't be prevented by the water cooled head or even a water cooled head and cylinder. Proper jetting and elimination of all leaks is the only thing that will prevent that. The water cooled head will just give you a longer run on the top end before it needs to be freshened up. I know you probably know that, but I've seen a lot of people hit these sites, see the heads others are using and they immediately think they're a solution to their constant rebuilding, holed pistons, etc. |
Author: | Turbotexas [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:08 pm ] |
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You are correct, as you can see it was late and I was excited!!! My Bad... You are right the watercooled head will not prevent a sieze... but maybe prolong the life of the top end... I did get the motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) stabbed today, it was a biotch by myself to do... always one or another of the bushings would fall out or hang up... I spent most of the morning hunting brass fittings for the plumbing, went to honda to get oil, purple antifreeze stuff... a few loose nuts etc... Tonite I am trying to switch out carb parts... Several months ago I bought a cherry stock pilot carb 34mm instead of the 32mm venturie and I am hoping I can keep the same jet sizes in and install my dial a jet and ride... I am not sure if this will work but it is a starting point... I am hoping to have the thing up and running by Tuesday, I am picking up a load that goes to Long Beach in the morning, it won't deliver till Thursday. then I will shag up to Dumont and meet the infamous Hoser and Nuke'em!!! I also have side panels I need to install... Ody_Stable wrote: Blowing a piston or seizing won't be prevented by the water cooled head or even a water cooled head and cylinder.
Proper jetting and elimination of all leaks is the only thing that will prevent that. The water cooled head will just give you a longer run on the top end before it needs to be freshened up. I know you probably know that, but I've seen a lot of people hit these sites, see the heads others are using and they immediately think they're a solution to their constant rebuilding, holed pistons, etc. |
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