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Author:  adnoh [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Hacker 2 crank puller

I thought I would share my Hacker tool I use to pull crank into cases and pull case together. This made of parts laying around garage and the only specail part is the puller bolt which most have with the bearing puller sets. In the pics I used and old crank and case halfs just for mock up pics. Since there been a little sdiscussion on bearings I thought I would post up. In the book it showes a similar device with no real detail. This puller allows one to only apply presser to the inner race as its pulled onto crank and prevent beraing and crank damage just like in the book. The cost of the puller was Zero for me since I had all the parts laying around. If parts were purched it would cost around $20.00 with out the puller bolt.

Note: There is no paint on the end on the puller tube. I do not want paint flakes in the bearings. Metal to metal with a light rub of two cycle oil.

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Case puller tool.JPG
Case puller tool.JPG [ 105.37 KiB | Viewed 3052 times ]
Case half crank and tools.JPG
Case half crank and tools.JPG [ 114.76 KiB | Viewed 3052 times ]
Crank in case  SEE THE MISTAKE rod not supported and centered.JPG
Crank in case SEE THE MISTAKE rod not supported and centered.JPG [ 102.11 KiB | Viewed 3052 times ]
Adapter blot in end of crank.JPG
Adapter blot in end of crank.JPG [ 110.74 KiB | Viewed 3052 times ]
Puller bolt adapter.JPG
Puller bolt adapter.JPG [ 123.09 KiB | Viewed 3052 times ]

Author:  adnoh [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

More pics

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File comment: This is a piece of 1" sch 40 pvc tapered to fit both ends of crank.
It fits inside the puller tube

Crank protection sleeve.JPG [113.82 KiB]
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Sleeve and adapter on end of crank .JPG [83.2 KiB]
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File comment: This is to show the puller bolt asembly which can not be seen once the sleeve/tube is installed
Adapter and puller bolt in end of crank Clutch side.JPG [125.47 KiB]
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File comment: protection sleeve on crank
Sleeve on crank.JPG [112.53 KiB]
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Puller set up with rod supported.JPG [122.19 KiB]
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Author:  adnoh [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

More pics
Note: this is just the tool and operation not the propper procedre to assemble.

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File comment: Small end wrench for pull as not over torgue if bearing pull has an issue. This is all the force neede to pull
Old atv tool pouch wrench to pull crank.JPG [128.86 KiB]
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Puller installed ready to pull crank into case.JPG
Puller installed ready to pull crank into case.JPG [ 113.49 KiB | Viewed 1209 times ]
another view of setready to pull.JPG [126.95 KiB]
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Hold handle and turn wrench.JPG [120.1 KiB]
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File comment: Clucth side done and time to do flywheel side
Pulled in tight.JPG [122.38 KiB]
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Author:  adnoh [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

Now for the flywheel side.

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File comment: adapter, without adapter (clutch side)bolt
Apapter on fly wheel end.JPG [116.12 KiB]
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adapter on and placing sleeve on .JPG [117.56 KiB]
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sleeve and adapter.JPG [116.72 KiB]
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Slidding the puller over the sleeve.JPG [118.57 KiB]
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Puller on fly wheel side ready to pull.JPG [111.67 KiB]
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Author:  adnoh [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

Pull pics

This is a hacker 2 due to the first one I made turned on the bearing face instead of just setting on the face. It worked ok but this works much better,smoother and more controlable. The head bearing and nut bearing allows for much less friction when turning and take all of the rotational force off of the tube.

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Ready to pull ( mockup no gasket).JPG [115.61 KiB]
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Pulling.JPG [107.6 KiB]
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Pulled.JPG [113.18 KiB]
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Author:  hoser [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

More cool tools, thanks for sharing, nice work! :-)

I use them thick rubber bands for the rod so they stretch as you push pull the crank in and out of the cases, self adjusting so to speak :shock:

Can see where someone turned crankshaft over without supporting the rod :shock:

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ROD bang.JPG
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Author:  adnoh [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

"H" I ve seen you rubber bans in your pics and thought way cool idea. Even when you ship them they have them on. The rubber bands is a a great side note. I shall put bands in the puller case for future use and pics. Just did not have them handy for pics. Shame on me, Not propley prepped for pics. Look for bands, cold ones and mini car in final bottom assembly video.

Note: Use rubber bands to support crank rod when setting up to pull cases.

Author:  davidafco [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

Post like this are what I like to read. Really cool. I would never had seen the rod damage you pointed out Hoser. Years of experiance showing there. :-)

Author:  hoser [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

Thought I had better pics but you can see my puller setup in this thread. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=700&start=25

Author:  davidafco [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

Just got thru checking out that thread. That was put in favorites also. :-)

Author:  hoser [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

davidafco wrote:
Just got thru checking out that thread. That was put in favorites also. :-)



You find this page yet lots of reading http://www.pilotodyssey.com/PilotOdysseyInnovations.htm

Author:  hoser [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

adnoh wrote:
"H" I ve seen you rubber bans in your pics and thought way cool idea. Even when you ship them they have them on. The rubber bands is a a great side note. I shall put bands in the puller case for future use and pics. Just did not have them handy for pics. Shame on me, Not propley prepped for pics. Look for bands, cold ones and mini car in final bottom assembly video.

Note: Use rubber bands to support crank rod when setting up to pull cases.


I got a kick out of your wire you can see the electrician showing :-) Anything works I have even made rubber bands by slicing up old inter tubes from motorcycles and ATV tires they make nice heavy duty bands.

Having them handy is a problem in my shop you would be surprised how many trips I have made to the store and forgot to buy rubber bands just one of them things you always forget to buy, when I do remember I buy 2-3 bags lol

Author:  adnoh [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hacker 2 crank puller

I'm like a farmer with the exception my wire is insulated. Got a couple pair of pliers as well. I usally have a drawer full of rubber bans from blue print. Ever since pdf files there kinda in short supply. I like the link you posted to your assembly. In one of the pics you can also see where some one used a screw driver to pry the cylinder off. I sure wish people would stop that. Theres just no need for it.

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Copy of Ready to pull ( mockup no gasket).JPG [115.99 KiB]
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