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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:55 am 
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what ended up being the ball joint solution


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:39 am 
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as for the j arms i just bought a couple of used ones off ebay. i am lookin at aces that he already hat atv racin do the rebuildable upgrade to.

now the good news, i got it started today. after just a little priming it fired right up and runs good. i havent got the air filter yet and havent installed the silencer so itll need some fine tuning but should be no problem. you touch the starter for half a sec and it fires right up no problem.

now the bad, i bled and bled but i can barely get the brakes to work. ive heard this is a commom problem but im stumped.i used a vacuum pump then tried the old fashioned way but nuthin.

now the really bad, i cant get it to go into forward. itll go into reverse but not forward. i took the linkage off and i cant do it manually either. i hate to take ALL that crap back out to tear open the tranny but i guess i haveta. i swear it worked before i put it in the chassis but nuthin now.

You need to bentch bleed the master cylinder

Blending them is an pain in da arse


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:41 am 
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A little suction on the bleeder works for me when Hooking up a new caliper


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:50 am 
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don't they like a little RPM to bump into gear? that's NJRiders is.


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:26 pm 
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If you can't shift it even with your hands on the linkage without the cables connected...you've prob got your shift collars and/or arm wrong in your gearbox. Quadruple check its all there and in order. I remember having the same issue after the one gearbox rebuild I did (in buggy #1), and I had parts in wrong. It was something like...(using the mental machete to hack through my mind here)...two collars look like they're the exact same, but they aren't (?).


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:14 pm 
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DMoneyAllstar wrote:
If you can't shift it even with your hands on the linkage without the cables connected...you've prob got your shift collars and/or arm wrong in your gearbox. Quadruple check its all there and in order. I remember having the same issue after the one gearbox rebuild I did (in buggy #1), and I had parts in wrong. It was something like...(using the mental machete to hack through my mind here)...two collars look like they're the exact same, but they aren't (?).

did the same thing with my spare trans
said screw it until i need it so it just sits that way


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:17 am 
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jason702v wrote:
I got my gasket and tore the tranny out yesterday. As I suspected it took me 3 hours to take the tranny out and replace it and 10 minutes to fix the problem. I had one of the gears in backward. I finished it up and did a couple laps around the pasture and it runs pretty good. Does great donuts!! I just ordered a master cylinder rebuild kit because I still have no brakes. I still need to to figure out something with the airbox too. Oh and the silencer needs a little work too ill do it at work tomorrow if I have time.

You sure the master is warn out?


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:49 pm 
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jason702v wrote:
No I just can't seem to get them to bleed. Thought I'd eliminate the master cylinder

I'm trying to remember did you buy a master cylinder and steering wheel from fat cat

the thing with the brakes are really help the most is lock up the front drums and the rear disc with the parking brake
then try to bleed it


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:11 am 
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jason702v wrote:
No I didn't buy the mc from fatcat. I don't have any of the parking brake on the buggy. It didn't come with it and I can't find any to buy.

ill find you one




this is the part # you need
43361-965-006 says honda still has them

there on

1983 ATC200X A REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1983 ATC250R A REAR BRAKE CALIPER 83-84
1984 ATC200X A REAR BRAKE CALIPER
1984 ATC250R A REAR BRAKE CALIPER 83-84
1985 ATC200X A REAR BRAKE CALIPER


and this one
the arm

43362-VM0-771 discontinued from honda


i got to look at the 87 Kawasaki Mojave caliper i got and see if they would work think they might

ill let you know tomorrow


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:10 pm 
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the 87 Kawasaki Mojave caliber is a no go

do me a favor and take off your cable bracket like the one in the photo
so I can see if the parts broken off inside or if its just missing
hopefully it's just missing


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:47 pm 
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looking better

wheres the top of that airbox?


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:45 pm 
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you might be able to use one off of an atc200x

i have one some where at the house i will look and see if you could make it work


ill find out monday


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:23 pm 
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well hopefully that one works out for you


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:14 pm 
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I took a look at mine and sketched it up.
All dimensions in mm.
It looks like the steel is 1045 or something.
I recommend something better than mild steel / 1008.
The small plate is spot welded on ( I don't think 1045 is good for MIG welding).
Good luck with the big hole - it's 3 squares overlayed.
I would drill a hole then file one square.


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:19 am 
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jason702v wrote:
Anyone know where to find the 2 inch flex hose for the intake? I've looked all over the local stores and can't find anything.

i got vacuum hose or you can go to an auto parts store and get heater hose


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:16 am 
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Are you talking about the tube that connects the back of the carb to the bottom of the air box or the hose that leads from the lower air box to the upper air box?

Rand


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:04 am 
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That can be had by buying Vacuum hose for a shop vac at your local Home Depot or Lowes.

Rand


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:37 am 
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I went to woodcrafters for the flex hose. Heavy duty stuff that way it will last. I bought that and a few fittings . The
stuff I bought was for dust collector.


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 Post subject: Re: first fl350 rebuild
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:54 am 
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Re your Park brake lever

I drought the one to fit the pilot
item 19 43362-HE0-006 arm, Parking Brake 89-90
item 18 43361-965-006 Shaft, R.  89-90
item 31 90313-HE0-006 Nut-Washer  89-90
item 29 90126-HE0-006 Bolt  89-90
item 25 46184-611-000 Boot, Master Cylinder  89-90


where the end of the park cable fits to the arm is lose but it works

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/H ... parts.html" .".." .".." ."..

hope this helps

the pic is not the best


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