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| Author: | Randman [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Time to fix up a pilot wheel. |
Drum brakes suck! LOL  I've been fighting them on VW's for around 20 years now. The ones on my 66 VW work great.....the ones on my Ody SUCK! It is a good possibility that its the design of the master cylinder. My rear brakes work fantastic! I've actually given thought to putting a foot brake pedal in my ody. Rand |
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| Author: | Fatcat [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Time to fix up a pilot wheel. |
Mine sucked to. Pretty sure I didn't have the cables adjusted properly or the master cylinder bled right. |
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| Author: | Randman [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Time to fix up a pilot wheel. |
I've gone through mine at least 5 times and I still hate drum brakes. The only thing I haven't changed is the wheel cylinders which are unavailable. I'm even thinking about changing my bug over to disk brakes. Funny this is both the wife's and Kolby's Ody will lock up the front brakes on asphalt! By the way did you hear the one about the Moron who thought asphalt was a rectal problem? Rand |
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| Author: | Fatcat [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:56 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Time to fix up a pilot wheel. | ||
Randman wrote: I've gone through mine at least 5 times and I still hate drum brakes. The only thing I haven't changed is the wheel cylinders which are unavailable. I'm even thinking about changing my bug over to disk brakes. Funny this is both the wife's and Kolby's Ody will lock up the front brakes on asphalt! By the way did you hear the one about the Moron who thought asphalt was a rectal problem? Rand Lol was it this guy?
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| Author: | hoser [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Time to fix up a pilot wheel. |
Randman wrote: I've gone through mine at least 5 times and I still hate drum brakes. The only thing I haven't changed is the wheel cylinders which are unavailable. I'm even thinking about changing my bug over to disk brakes. Funny this is both the wife's and Kolby's Ody will lock up the front brakes on asphalt! By the way did you hear the one about the Moron who thought asphalt was a rectal problem? Rand Whats not working with yours? They adjusted properly leading shoe should contact the drum first, when your done adjusting it should be almost hard to turn the tire and rim yes they should be rubbing slightly. How well does the shoes match the drums? |
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| Author: | B S [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Time to fix up a pilot wheel. |
Randman wrote: Drum brakes suck! LOL I've been fighting them on VW's for around 20 years now. The ones on my 66 VW work great.....the ones on my Ody SUCK! It is a good possibility that its the design of the master cylinder. My rear brakes work fantastic! I've actually given thought to putting a foot brake pedal in my ody. Rand have you replaced the rubber brake lines in the front ? i know they will stretch over the years mine has the SS brake lines and i can lock the front up |
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| Author: | Randman [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Time to fix up a pilot wheel. |
hoser wrote: Randman wrote: I've gone through mine at least 5 times and I still hate drum brakes. The only thing I haven't changed is the wheel cylinders which are unavailable. I'm even thinking about changing my bug over to disk brakes. Funny this is both the wife's and Kolby's Ody will lock up the front brakes on asphalt! By the way did you hear the one about the Moron who thought asphalt was a rectal problem? Rand Whats not working with yours? They adjusted properly leading shoe should contact the drum first, when your done adjusting it should be almost hard to turn the tire and rim yes they should be rubbing slightly. How well does the shoes match the drums? Shoes match the drums just fine and the contact area of the shoe contacts the drum fully. Like I said before, I am no stranger to drum brakes and am aware of how to adjust them. I suspect the piston in the wheel cylinder is a little sloppy on the left front wheel. The right front wheel locks up just fine. I have a low hour parts Ody in the garage that I am going to steel a wheel cylinder from. BS, where did you get you braided lines from and do you have the part numbers for the fittings and hoses? I did my rear brake lines but I haven't got around to the front yet. Rand |
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| Author: | B S [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Time to fix up a pilot wheel. |
Randman wrote: hoser wrote: Randman wrote: I've gone through mine at least 5 times and I still hate drum brakes. The only thing I haven't changed is the wheel cylinders which are unavailable. I'm even thinking about changing my bug over to disk brakes. Funny this is both the wife's and Kolby's Ody will lock up the front brakes on asphalt! By the way did you hear the one about the Moron who thought asphalt was a rectal problem? Rand Whats not working with yours? They adjusted properly leading shoe should contact the drum first, when your done adjusting it should be almost hard to turn the tire and rim yes they should be rubbing slightly. How well does the shoes match the drums? Shoes match the drums just fine and the contact area of the shoe contacts the drum fully. Like I said before, I am no stranger to drum brakes and am aware of how to adjust them. I suspect the piston in the wheel cylinder is a little sloppy on the left front wheel. The right front wheel locks up just fine. I have a low hour parts Ody in the garage that I am going to steel a wheel cylinder from. BS, where did you get you braided lines from and do you have the part numbers for the fittings and hoses? I did my rear brake lines but I haven't got around to the front yet. Rand They were on my odyssey when I bought it I have seen a kit on eBay a while back not sure if they still sell it I can lock my front up easly My yellow one I just sold I could not lock it up for the life of me |
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| Author: | Fatcat [ Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:17 am ] | |||
| Post subject: | Re: Time to fix up a pilot wheel. | |||
Well I figured I better get my butt in gear on this. I borrowed the impact screwdriver from my dad and went to town on those screws. It's a no go. Going to stop before I break something. Just wanted to pull it apart to paint it. Pure cosmetics and Gary is putting this on a rider anyway. I finally dug the rest of the old sight glasses out. That was the hardest part in changing these. For future reference for anyone doing this be careful with removal. You could easily damage the metal piece that sits behind the glass. I had to get creative getting the bulk of the old one out. A dental pick would work great but rather than driving a half hour to my dads to borrow one I straighted a fish hook and heated it on the stove. Once I melted a hole through it I got a baby screwdriver in there to clean the bulk of it out. I had this done from a couple months ago. Just used the baby flathead today to finish getting them out. I seriously need to get some glasses for this kind of work. The new sight glasses fit perfectly. Almost a snap in fit. I then used a toothpick to put some clear silicone around the outer edge. I'm not sure how happy I am with my results. Once it dries I'll stand it up and fill both reservoirs. Let it sit overnight and check for leaks. I'll be honest. I'm pretty clumsy when it comes to stuff this technical. Lots of you guys could probably do a very very good job at this. Plus it will protect the plastic you can't buy anymore. My biggest worry would've been to pick up a leak just sitting in the garage. Would screw up the plastic before I ever noticed it. Anyway. That's all for today folks. More to come soon.
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| Author: | Nuke Em [ Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Time to fix up a pilot wheel. |
Looks great! nice work |
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