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 Post subject: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:48 am 
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Picked this gem up from Mudbogger yesterday, has a bent frame but its all there. Cleaned the carb and had it running in less then an hour, now I just need to pull the frame close to straight.

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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:20 pm 
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Ha, there she is ha, great to see, let me know if you need anything like front suspension parts, rims, etc Brian. Please post befores and after of that front clip, it got a good bend in it for sure. I am just happy that the front plastics are all in good shape, did you need and rear fender brackets? Forgot to ask you yesterday!


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:52 pm 
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Did you get your check the compression on the Engine by chance?


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:00 pm 
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didnt check compression yet, going to try and get this frame sq then mess with the motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) now that i know it runs im not to concerned.

anyone have measurements off a stock frame? i know i can bend this back, just not sure where back is lol. seems like everything is shifted 3deg to the left looking at the buggy from the front.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:42 pm 
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I usual bring them to a body shop for repair honestly most eye it up or do what your doing measure twice. How does the frame look otherwise? Plastic come off ok?


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:45 pm 
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Check that lower bushing on the steering stem Brian, they always seems to go bad after a hit like that. You can buy them on ebay from seller "ROOKY" might as well replace it now if it is bad. LOOKING good!!


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:20 pm 
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everything came apart with ease, rest of the frame looks good. This thing is kicking my ass, keeps springing back no matter where i push or put heat. As always last resort will be a replacement frame


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:12 pm 
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cracked the frame even with heat so made the decision to get the sawzaw out to relive some of the stress and cut the worst part out. were going to bend up some tube and make a new lower front frame section, then Ill convert all the a-arms (front/rear) to heim joints so I can compensate for the remainder of the twist and keep it from tracking sideways.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:24 pm 
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With the removal of the tubing will it square up Brian? Check the measurements by the seat mounts good place to start off for square, you will see if that section too is bent by measuring those mounts, square that up and the front will follow it with the proper welding. Remember that tubing is way thin and has been compromised already, some of the welds might be fatigued from all the years.When you do weld the new tubing in, make sure you put that steering column in, it will help in getting that frame squared up too, weld it wrong and the thing will be a real bitch to bolt back in-believe me!
I have a used Yoda +2 front Long travel kit that comes with heims, upper LT shocks mounts, Fox Air shocks,etc if your interested in going that route. Great build thread, sorry it was so bent but your really getting it into a runner for sure.
Also nice to have a welder as a friend too!!!! Need anything please call me!


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:41 pm 
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thanks for the tips mud, I had a good idea what i was getting into here so im not worried. worst case i scrap the frame but im confident i can make this work.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:04 am 
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Any updates brian?


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:30 pm 
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Mudbogger wrote:
Ha, there she is ha, great to see, let me know if you need anything like front suspension parts, rims, etc Brian. Please post befores and after of that front clip, it got a good bend in it for sure. I am just happy that the front plastics are all in good shape, did you need and rear fender brackets? Forgot to ask you yesterday!


Just curios mud but how did you bend it ?? A crash ?? :-) Vid ?? :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:31 pm 
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btroxl wrote:
Picked this gem up from Mudbogger yesterday, has a bent frame but its all there. Cleaned the carb and had it running in less then an hour, now I just need to pull the frame close to straight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8A_pTcQck


Based on that you tube vid your pilot jet seems way off.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:41 pm 
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canadian oddy wrote:
Mudbogger wrote:
Ha, there she is ha, great to see, let me know if you need anything like front suspension parts, rims, etc Brian. Please post befores and after of that front clip, it got a good bend in it for sure. I am just happy that the front plastics are all in good shape, did you need and rear fender brackets? Forgot to ask you yesterday!


Just curios mud but how did you bend it ?? A crash ?? :-) Vid ?? :-)

Oh no previous owner damaged it. I bought it as you see it here.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:53 pm 
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canadian oddy wrote:
btroxl wrote:
Picked this gem up from Mudbogger yesterday, has a bent frame but its all there. Cleaned the carb and had it running in less then an hour, now I just need to pull the frame close to straight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8A_pTcQck


Based on that you tube vid your pilot jet seems way off.



Might be, Ive only run it for about 30 seconds as of now. Ill have to check it once im ready to run it longer.

As if today I've bought a replacement frame for it, still going to try and make this frame work but know I'll be able to ride while i do.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:58 pm 
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spent some time cleaning up the plastics today. Defiantly far from perfect but 100% usable.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:26 pm 
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Looks nice. Details about your cleaning process please.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:01 am 
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rmesser wrote:
Looks nice. Details about your cleaning process please.


purple power with a scrub brush, then once dry wipe-new (as seen on tv) from walmart. Stuff works great.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:42 pm 
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new frame showed up and I was able to find a few hours today to mess with the buggy. This thing hit something hard enough to break one of the trans mounts. also axles are froze in the trans so i drilled one with a 5/16 bit and have them soaking with some penetrating spray. its slow going as free time is hard to find but ill get it done.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:32 pm 
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I would only drill the stubs as a last resort. Try soaking then from the outside of the stub. New axles are like gold. I soaked mine for weeks and finally got the to pop out.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:34 pm 
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I have a tranny mount that broke just like that. I just had it welded up and it's held up fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:38 pm 
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Was it able to be welded with the tranny together, or did you have to take it a part because of the heat?


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
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i already drilled one of the axles, worst case ill have to machine up a new cup/stub. As soon as i get the stubs out of the trans im going to try and weld this one up also.


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
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rmesser wrote:
Was it able to be welded with the tranny together, or did you have to take it a part because of the heat?



Mine was done when it was apart but I wanted to inspect the internals anyways. viewtopic.php?f=118&t=14230


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 Post subject: Re: Fl400 for fun build
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rmesser wrote:
Was it able to be welded with the tranny together, or did you have to take it a part because of the heat?



I just drained all the oil out and had it welded, I never had an issue. But it would be much better to take it apart and have it done.


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