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Author:  rmesser [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:44 am ]
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Did you paint it in your shop? If so, were is all the paint dust? Sure looks nice.

Author:  canadian oddy [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:08 pm ]
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rmesser wrote:
Did you paint it in your shop? If so, were is all the paint dust? Sure looks nice.


Yes I did.
I actually brushed it and it turned out nicer than the one I sprayed. There are no brush marks. Used tremclad paint. Am very happy with the result and didn't have to build a plastic spray booth like I did for the last one. Paint is thicker than the sprayed one as well. Gona brush any future rebuilds as well. Don't buy cheap paint.

Author:  rmesser [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:38 am ]
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What color did you use?

https://www.rustoleum.ca/product-catalo ... rust-paint

Author:  canadian oddy [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:30 pm ]
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rmesser wrote:


I used the oil based paint called fire red -- the first one in that product catalog

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Author:  dipnadactyl [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:05 pm ]
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Yo - whats the status here? Any updates? New pictures???

Author:  canadian oddy [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:43 pm ]
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Sorry nothing new.
I have been waiting for parts and one of the seals you can't get from anyone anymore. Gona have to put the old one in and not sure what to do for the other side as I don't have one. Have been thinking of pouring a seal with Vitaflex60. Anyways the seal I am talking about is the 36x55 axel carrier seal. You can't get them. Another issue is everyone comes to my place for stuff and it ties up my time and space. My brother got the shop right now to do his truck ball joints. Got dental appointments, Christmas shopping, driving mom around for her doctors stuff and shopping blah blah blah. You get the picture.
I have been painting stuff and cleaning as time permits. When I do get at it then it will go quick and I will post pics. Don't have a gas tank or seat for it yet. Have an idea for a fuel tank but I know I am not going to use that piece of poo that came with it. It had a spun aluminum tank mounted to the outside of the rear down tubes :shock: . F me that's a stupid idea. Guy should be shot with his own poo for even thinking that.
Anyhow I will post progress and I have not forgot about this post.

Author:  CurtisR401 [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:51 pm ]
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canadian oddy wrote:
Anyways the seal I am talking about is the 36x55 axel carrier seal


This seal?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-HONDA-FL3 ... 1438.l2649

Author:  canadian oddy [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:57 pm ]
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CurtisR401 wrote:
canadian oddy wrote:
Anyways the seal I am talking about is the 36x55 axel carrier seal


This seal?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-HONDA-FL3 ... 1438.l2649


Oh my. Yes sir that is the seal.
I paid $17 Canadian for one bearing and that whole kit is $15 USA.
Yup we take it in the azz here in Canada. It don't even hurt anymore. We all got butt holes the size of dinner plates here. Country full of hug a whale kiss a bear rainbow flag faggots who all vote Liberal party because our Prime Minister is cute and will take a selfie with ya.

Nice find. I don't even look ebay because I don't have paypal. Oh well.

Author:  canadian oddy [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:32 pm ]
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canadian oddy wrote:
CurtisR401 wrote:
canadian oddy wrote:
Anyways the seal I am talking about is the 36x55 axel carrier seal


This seal?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-HONDA-FL3 ... 1438.l2649


Oh my. Yes sir that is the seal.
I paid $17 Canadian for one bearing and that whole kit is $15 USA.
Yup we take it in the azz here in Canada. It don't even hurt anymore. We all got butt holes the size of dinner plates here. Country full of hug a whale kiss a bear rainbow flag faggots who all vote Liberal party because our Prime Minister is cute and will take a selfie with ya.

Nice find. I don't even look ebay because I don't have paypal. Oh well.


Just ordered two sets last night.
They took visa and ship USPS (not those rip off courier) so I bought a couple sets. Will see how bad Canada customs screws me. Apparently they now chose random packages for opening and then they send you the bill for the inspection (about $17).
I will post when I get them. Delivery is going to be between now and Jan 2nd it says.

Author:  CurtisR401 [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:54 pm ]
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Nice! Glad that worked out.

Author:  canadian oddy [ Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:57 pm ]
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canadian oddy wrote:
canadian oddy wrote:
CurtisR401 wrote:
canadian oddy wrote:
Anyways the seal I am talking about is the 36x55 axel carrier seal


This seal?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-HONDA-FL3 ... 1438.l2649


Oh my. Yes sir that is the seal.
I paid $17 Canadian for one bearing and that whole kit is $15 USA.
Yup we take it in the azz here in Canada. It don't even hurt anymore. We all got butt holes the size of dinner plates here. Country full of hug a whale kiss a bear rainbow flag faggots who all vote Liberal party because our Prime Minister is cute and will take a selfie with ya.

Nice find. I don't even look ebay because I don't have paypal. Oh well.


Just ordered two sets last night.
They took visa and ship USPS (not those rip off courier) so I bought a couple sets. Will see how bad Canada customs screws me. Apparently they now chose random packages for opening and then they send you the bill for the inspection (about $17).
I will post when I get them. Delivery is going to be between now and Jan 2nd it says.


Well I just received these seals and bearings.
That's 7 days shipping to my door here in Canada from Greensboro NC and it's Christmas time. That's pretty good. The seals and bearings are correct. I have to give this seller a thumbs up. So if any of you need these parts, give them your business. Price is good too.

Author:  canadian oddy [ Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:34 am ]
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Well got a bit more done on it now that we are all trapped by all the snow. We got about 2' yesterday.

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Author:  dipnadactyl [ Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:08 pm ]
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Great job with the rebuild, CO. Looks like it's coming along nicely! Hope you have heat in your workshop.

Author:  canadian oddy [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:38 am ]
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Well got the front suspension, steering column and steering, tub and Engine put in it tonight.
Put new rod ends on the steering rods. Also put my homemade rubber Engine mounts in this one. I did send a couple to a member here free but he never got back to me for a report so I will use this unit for a test bed. Also found a couple of issues with my homemade Engine mounts. The pipe I put in was a bit long so I had to grind it shorter (pics below). Also one of the Engine mounts had a weld protruding into the pipe and I could not get the bolt through so I had to die grind it out. After several Engine pulls I managed to get it all together. I am happy with the results so far.

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Author:  canadian oddy [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:39 am ]
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The homemade Engine mounts and issues

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Author:  canadian oddy [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:20 am ]
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Among other things I rebuilt the shifter tonight.
Thought I would post some pics in case someone has not taken one apart and would like to see the insides. This is the shifter off of the parts machine and it would not lift up so that you could engage reverse. I laid out the parts in order of disassembly. You will notice that the shaft has a groove cut in it about half way. This groove is for the pin that is located in the nut. It is very small but you can see it in the pic. It is the small shinny bit between the lands on the threaded nut. This pin and groove is what prevents the shifter from spinning around and also acts as a travel limit when you lift up and then let go.
For those of you who do not have a lathe or die grinder you can use your drill press to clean up the bits. Put the shaft into the chuck and use a file or emery cloth. To polish the inside of the nut you take a rod that is smaller than the inside diameter and cut a slot in it. Put some emery cloth through it and chuck it up in the drill press. Hold the nut by hand. Be careful not to hit the seal with the emery.
Putting this thing all together can be a pain in the azz. The slot in the shaft must line up with the pin and then you have to hold it somehow while you smack the pin with a punch and hammer. You need to be an octopus.
Caution here: If you can not get the shaft out of the nut it is because the pin is set so don't get rammy. It may not be possible to get it apart once the pin is set. Not sure. Mine came apart because someone changed the shift knob and with all the twisting etc the pin worked its way out and you could spin the shaft around. Use judgement.

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Author:  CurtisR401 [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:54 am ]
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Very nice work CO, its looking good.

I recently rebuilt a few shifters that were in various conditions. I however was not able to take the nut off any of mine because that damn pin. I thought about drilling it out but had 2 good ones that I needed and used those. I'll give it a try on one of the spares maybe. Thanks for the pictures, I had a feeling the pin had something to do with it.

Author:  canadian oddy [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:34 pm ]
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CurtisR401 wrote:
Very nice work CO, its looking good.

I recently rebuilt a few shifters that were in various conditions. I however was not able to take the nut off any of mine because that damn pin. I thought about drilling it out but had 2 good ones that I needed and used those. I'll give it a try on one of the spares maybe. Thanks for the pictures, I had a feeling the pin had something to do with it.


STOP RIGHT THERE !!
That pin will be as hard as the back of god's head.
Also it is very very small and no way to get a center punch for a drill bit to start. I think you are just going to make a mess. You could try to grind down the end of a needle nose vise grip that will fit into the groove on the nut. Then try to grab it if there is any of it sticking out.

Author:  canadian oddy [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:25 am ]
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Got a home made E-Brake cable, home made intake manifold and wheels installed tonight.
See the E-Brake post in tech section.

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Author:  canadian oddy [ Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:50 pm ]
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Currently doing the master cylinder rebuild.
Oh my what a mess. Both site glasses were cracked and when I tried to take them out they just broke into many brittle plastic pieces. Everything else gummed up and I had to drill out one of the screws to get the lid off. I hate drilling out small screws but it worked out for me this time.
Below are some pics. The plastic ported clear caps in the bottom of the bowl both just pop out. Under those caps are two holes. One large one about an 1/8" approx. and one very very small one. In the pics you can see that this hole is only .014 in diameter and both were plugged. I wonder how many of us have actually removed these clear caps and cleaned those holes during a rebuild ?? I know that I am guilty of it. Also during the bleeding process I noticed on many occasions an air bubble under these clear caps and you had to let the brake handle snap back to get this air bubble out from under the cap. During this rebuild I will not be putting these clear ported caps back in. In fact I may remove them from my other machines as well. I see not mechanical reason for them to be there. If I am wrong then someone please correct me.
Note when you look at the pic of the wire it will look like it is coming out of the large hole but it is not. Look close.

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Author:  MGurgone40 [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:11 am ]
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CO just got caught up on your progress, that machine is really looking good, great job! Can’t get over how good the frame looks. Before and after pictures will be something to see! Awesome job so far, looking forward to seeing it when you complete the rebuild. Crazy how talented you and some of the other members are, wish I had that skill set!

Mike

Author:  canadian oddy [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:37 am ]
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MGurgone40 wrote:
CO just got caught up on your progress, that machine is really looking good, great job! Can’t get over how good the frame looks. Before and after pictures will be something to see! Awesome job so far, looking forward to seeing it when you complete the rebuild. Crazy how talented you and some of the other members are, wish I had that skill set!

Mike


No one should ever sell themselves short.
I can't build a house or make a coffee table out of wood but some here can. Some are great in the medical field but are to dumb to change a wheel. I can't do surgery. Some can engineer things on a computer but all I can do is cut and paste. Everyone has a talent. Mine happens to be anything mechanical. I suck at electrical because I can't see anything move, but I know if I give it the lick test I will end up on my azz.
I have many hobbies but I am only really good at the mechanical. I used to skydive (have 10 jumps) then realized this is dumb LOL. Raced cars and won two championships and set two track records. Played at the world series of poker in Las Vegas several times but never cashed (my brother cashed though).
At the end of the day we are all very good at something -- EVERYONE.

Author:  scpilot66 [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:45 am ]
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Awesome work Sir, great job.
You would never know what that machine has been through. Boy, if our machines could only talk, can you imagine the stories they could tell.

Take care.

Author:  canadian oddy [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:53 pm ]
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scpilot66 wrote:
Awesome work Sir, great job.
You would never know what that machine has been through. Boy, if our machines could only talk, can you imagine the stories they could tell.

Take care.


Thank you sir.
Yeah I know my machines would have a few stories to tell that's for sure.

Author:  canadian oddy [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:18 am ]
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Got a bit more done. Seat in. Now working on the steering column shields. Have to make some from scratch because the spare machine I bought had some parts missing.

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