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Author: | MassOdy [ Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:50 pm ] | |||||||
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Hi All, My Project among others.... is to maintain my front end and steering on the Pilot. As a back ground this is the "Wheelman Pilot Project" from years ago. The board came together and built a ride for Mr. Wheelman. It has been passed along the way and I am the current proud owner of it. Thanks everyone! Be that as it may. I need to perform some repairs and upgrades to this setup. 1. Works shocks need over haul. np send them off if I can get them to respond.... 2. Ball Joint replacements. 3. Replace Left side tie rod end. (Right is new) easy 4. Steering has a loose play that is additive from steering wheel to actual wheels. Shaft repairs. Bump steer bushing, bushing , bushings. :) 5. A Arms: loan to friend to look at. 6. Breaklines...... I was a dumb ass and let my braided brake lines come in contact with the rim.....
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Author: | MassOdy [ Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:52 pm ] | ||
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Author: | MassOdy [ Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:09 pm ] |
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Upper Arm's OD is 7/8" Lower Arm's OD is 1" |
Author: | MassOdy [ Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:01 pm ] | |||||||
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I started to pull the parts off. Arms go out to get Bushings made to fit. Shocks go off to Works to get over hauled and adjusters added. Hopefully dropped an inch as well.
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Author: | MassOdy [ Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:54 pm ] |
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http://pilotodyssey.com/wheelman.htm |
Author: | MassOdy [ Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:42 pm ] | ||||||||
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Got the Arms of and them seperated from the Hubs. I see some numbers. We'll see if they amount to a new part #. With all the frnt end apart. My steering is still real tight. Next step after this is to rework the steering with a good douching, inspection, and bushings.
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Author: | hoser [ Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:03 pm ] |
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MassOdy wrote: Got the Arms of and them seperated from the Hubs.
I see some numbers. We'll see if they amount to a new part #. With all the frnt end apart. My steering is still real tight. Next step after this is to rework the steering with a good douching, inspection, and bushings. The guy that made the kit for the front of your Pilot was HI PERFORMANCE A.T.V. 246 Denny Way El Cajon CA 92020 619-448-8802 That is the return address that was on the info he sent me about 12 years ago. |
Author: | hoser [ Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:17 am ] | ||
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Got the scanner working...
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Author: | hoser [ Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:20 am ] | ||
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Here is the rear suspension.
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Author: | Lee [ Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:07 pm ] |
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Hi-Performance ATV went belly up 12 years ago. I used to frequent there shop while I was a student working on the Mini-Baja car at SDSU. As I recall they used the tie rod end from a VW for the upper ball joint and a Jeep tie rod end for the lower ball joint on there 3 to 4 wheeler conversion kits. We used there arms and knuckles for the Mini-Baja cars suspension. Your upper ball joints look like the VW part but the lowers do not fit what I remember (not that my memory is worth a darn). I know it’s not a lot of useful information but maybe a place to start. |
Author: | MassOdy [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:23 pm ] |
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that's awesome to know. Thanks Lee. I actually spoke to them on the phone. Well left my name and number and spoke of my needs. She took it down and I'm waiting. I'll call back. It was a long shot anyways. Thanks again. |
Author: | mudbogger [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:52 am ] |
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Any updates Mass on this by chance? |
Author: | MassOdy [ Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:54 am ] |
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Yeah I have. Hare was so kind he got a lead on parts and bought me the stock front Arms, tie rods, shocks, new bushings and the arm are clean and painted. My plans originally were to send these out to be rebuilt. The Arms need new ball joints. And one works ressi shock needs oil and gas. The arms need bushings too. These are +4" arms. But, given the terrain I ride in the LT is over kill for me. I'd prefer maneuverability. And I KNOW my riding buddies would like me to as well. And Mudbogger: you were so nice to send me a replacement steering shaft. Thank you. I don't think I will keep a hold of the LT setup. I've already been contacted from a few of the board members for these or wanting information. |
Author: | MassOdy [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:47 pm ] | |||||||
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Started to install the stock rebuilt setup. I'll miss the LT Works Shocks. But here we go. In order for me to get this ride from my garage to my friends shop I got to get the front end together. In doing so I cleaned up my front hubs and brakes. (work in progress) The carriers have been modified. I hope the stock steering still fits. Is carrier the right term?? The bitch ass part that connects the upper and lower A arm directly. ;)
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Author: | MassOdy [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:59 pm ] | ||
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Author: | hoser [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:07 pm ] |
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Going by memory they welded on a tab to relocate the tie rod end, is the ball joint tapers and holes the same as Honda or did they ream out the holes? |
Author: | MassOdy [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:46 pm ] |
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I'm worried of this as well. I'll put the pieces together tonight and see if they are sloppy. I hope not. Otherwise I'll need replacements. I'm also hoping the steering wholes are close enough for government work. |
Author: | MassOdy [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:02 pm ] |
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Confirmed. The wholes for the Ball Joints are reemed out a tad. And in a tapper. Maybe these should go with the +4" Arms. Or sleeve them. As I mentioned in chat I need to mic these out. And then compare to stock. They match the mod well so maybe its best to replace them. |
Author: | MassOdy [ Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:56 pm ] | |||||||||
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I got the replacement Front Knuckles from Service Honda today. Yipppeee still available!
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Author: | MassOdy [ Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:03 pm ] | |||||
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mo pics
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Author: | MassOdy [ Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:42 pm ] | |||||||||
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I built the hubs up today and snapped a few shots. I used a bit of silcone sealer between the plate and the parts that attach to it. I noticed when I took it apart it had trapped some crud in between. I also ran the dremel with a soft brush over the parts. Got the residue crap off of the nuts and bolt heads.. Used a tight brush for the crater head bolts. (wife thought i was crazy) I noticed some of the 12mm bolts thread tips had rust and other did not. Two bolts are exposed on there tip end to the elements. So I dabbed a tad of silcone on them to protect.
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Author: | hoser [ Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:19 pm ] |
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MassOdy wrote: I built the hubs up today and snapped a few shots.
I used a bit of silcone sealer between the plate and the parts that attach to it. I noticed when I took it apart it had trapped some crud in between. I also ran the dremel with a soft brush over the parts. Got the residue crap off of the nuts and bolt heads.. Used a tight brush for the crater head bolts. (wife thought i was crazy) I noticed some of the 12mm bolts thread tips had rust and other did not. Two bolts are exposed on there tip end to the elements. So I dabbed a tad of silcone on them to protect. Looking good. Did you grease the ball joints? Put never seize or grease on the tapers before installing? |
Author: | MassOdy [ Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:15 pm ] | ||
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So I noticed the front hub bearings needed replacing as well. And once I got them apart I notice the two collars were marked up a bit. These parts are #2 and #5 in the parts pic, 44312-VN0-000 and 44620-HE0-000 How critical are they for being perfect? The linear marks on them and th eheat stress it looks like on the outer side is concerning me. New bearings and dust caps will be going in. Will post more. gotta resize pics
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Author: | MassOdy [ Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:21 pm ] | |||||||||
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pics of the collar bushings
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