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Author:  nitrosport_5 [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:58 am ]
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B S wrote:
Well got my shocks On Friday

And there not 200 psi There too soft

Was able to get the charge kit From a friends friend
So I was thinking around 170-180?

What are people running for Psi on the pilot with the Yoda arms?

B.O got his first bath today


I'm at 175 and I think they're a bit stiff
Author:  B S [ Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:20 pm ]
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nitrosport_5 wrote:
B S wrote:
Well got my shocks On Friday

And there not 200 psi There too soft

Was able to get the charge kit From a friends friend
So I was thinking around 170-180?

What are people running for Psi on the pilot with the Yoda arms?

B.O got his first bath today


I'm at 175 and I think they're a bit stiff


they had 140-150 from the factory

i have them set to 225 psi

now i have to learn about valving them

any one got info on the fox 2.0 valving?
Author:  SomeGuyFromCali [ Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:59 am ]
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B S wrote:
I think my throttle cable was the best lol


That's some quality work right there.
Author:  nickRNR [ Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:19 pm ]
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B S wrote:
Ya I'll post picts as he gets bigger
Little bastard ate my phone charger this morning
Luckley for me it took a shit 2 days before :-)


The dog or the charger? LOL

Sorry I didn't voxer you back, voxer has been pissing me off lately.

FYI I have the front shocks in the Revolt set at 200psi (FINALLY!) and they seem a bit high to me. I had them set at 175psi and the front sagged too low and would bottom out and drag on razor backs, scooping sand right up into my crotch! Sandy balls n crack aint good! But point being, a difference of 25psi on an air shock makes a world of difference, AND you need to factor in the weight of the car. Revolts are 700lbs dry, and the front ends are much heavier than a FL350. I would imagine the psi will be trial and error, maybe somewhere around 180psi could be a good start. Or just go big, set it to 200psi and take a gauge and air them down little by little until you like the way it rides.
Author:  B S [ Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:51 pm ]
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nickRNR wrote:
B S wrote:
Ya I'll post picts as he gets bigger
Little bastard ate my phone charger this morning
Luckley for me it took a shit 2 days before :-)


The dog or the charger? LOL

Sorry I didn't voxer you back, voxer has been pissing me off lately.

FYI I have the front shocks in the Revolt set at 200psi (FINALLY!) and they seem a bit high to me. I had them set at 175psi and the front sagged too low and would bottom out and drag on razor backs, scooping sand right up into my crotch! Sandy balls n crack aint good! But point being, a difference of 25psi on an air shock makes a world of difference, AND you need to factor in the weight of the car. Revolts are 700lbs dry, and the front ends are much heavier than a FL350. I would imagine the psi will be trial and error, maybe somewhere around 180psi could be a good start. Or just go big, set it to 200psi and take a gauge and air them down little by little until you like the way it rides.

There at 225 psi right now after I charged them up rusty says to bump them 10 psi to 235 and see how it rides then go from there

And the phone charger took a shit not the dog
He hasn't shit in my room yet just on the tile floor.
Author:  hoser [ Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:10 pm ]
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nickRNR wrote:
B S wrote:
Ya I'll post picts as he gets bigger
Little bastard ate my phone charger this morning
Luckley for me it took a shit 2 days before :-)


The dog or the charger? LOL

Sorry I didn't voxer you back, voxer has been pissing me off lately.

FYI I have the front shocks in the Revolt set at 200psi (FINALLY!) and they seem a bit high to me. I had them set at 175psi and the front sagged too low and would bottom out and drag on razor backs, scooping sand right up into my crotch! Sandy balls n crack aint good! But point being, a difference of 25psi on an air shock makes a world of difference, AND you need to factor in the weight of the car. Revolts are 700lbs dry, and the front ends are much heavier than a FL350. I would imagine the psi will be trial and error, maybe somewhere around 180psi could be a good start. Or just go big, set it to 200psi and take a gauge and air them down little by little until you like the way it rides.



How are you going to air them down a little?

These shocks has such a small volume if you take a regular tire guage and try to check the pressure by time you put it on the valve core and remove you lose 50 lbs when it went psssst .

Using my nitrogen setup for shocks the 0 loss thing (like in the attached pic) if I put it on the shock and turn the valve so it depresses the valve core and pressurizes that little Tee so you can read the gauge to see what pressure is inside the shock you just lowered the pressure in the shock by 10 psi, the volume in that tool lowers the pressure 10 psi to check the shock pressure, test this yourself with your setup if your setup is home made or different than shown in the pic your pressure loss might be different because the volume might be different in your setup.

You can download a spread sheet here for the FOX air shocks and adjust the pressure and see exactly how much the spring rate will change per PSI for your shock.
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7080

You also want the shocks fully extended before testing the pressure.

If you drop the pressure and the shock bottoms then you need to ADD more oil to the shock to increase the compression ratio so the shock will NOT bottom out not necessarily just add more pressure, I made adjustable oil volume controls for my shocks so I could change the compression ratio without adding or removing oil http://pilotodyssey.com/FOXAirShox.htm just need to adjust the nitrogen pressure. .

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Author:  B S [ Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:12 pm ]
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I have the kit currently from a friend
Author:  nickRNR [ Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:23 pm ]
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Yes, you need your zero loss chuck and guage to let the pressure out little by little.

225 is HUGE! That is what I used to run in the REAR of the Revolt! These shocks are on the front, right?
Author:  hoser [ Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:57 pm ]
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nickRNR wrote:
Yes, you need your zero loss chuck and guage to let the pressure out little by little.

225 is HUGE! That is what I used to run in the REAR of the Revolt! These shocks are on the front, right?



Every application should be different the spring rate will depend on the leverage ratio.
Author:  B S [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:20 pm ]
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nickRNR wrote:
Yes, you need your zero loss chuck and guage to let the pressure out little by little.

225 is HUGE! That is what I used to run in the REAR of the Revolt! These shocks are on the front, right?

Yes front shocks
Author:  B S [ Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:19 pm ]
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well currently the fl350 is broke down(trans took a shit ) until i feel like putting it back together

if the trans didn't fail all i needed to do was order a throttle cable for it and it would be done for now

so when i have a chance ill order one
Author:  B S [ Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:15 pm ]
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so the trans is back in the fl537

all i need to order is a throttle cable now and shes pretty much done
Author:  B S [ Wed May 07, 2014 6:13 pm ]
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decided to install a primer for the seadoo carbs as the stock chokes suck for sucking fuel in

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201064154661?ss ... 1439.l2649

thanks nitro for the link
Author:  B S [ Wed May 07, 2014 6:15 pm ]
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also found out from riding last week that my belt was too short and it finally wore out and shredded & flipped over :shock:

so i put a pilot belt in it and damm it hauls ass now :-)
its even better because my belt was a $65 one and now i can run a $40 belt :-)
it is starting to pull wheelies :-)
Author:  B S [ Thu May 29, 2014 7:37 pm ]
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well this odyssey will be getting a 617(670's little brother) rotax in it now :-)
96 more cc's :-)
so ill have to rebuild the pipe so the Engine will fit :shock:


the whole reason i'm installing the 617 my friend wanted a odyssey so i found him one and the 537 from mine is going into his


so ill start a project post for his when it gets picked up

not till the 5th or 6th of june
Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Fri May 30, 2014 2:10 pm ]
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Jealous - you're already upgrading engines! ='( I went and rolled my project's Engine over a few times to keep the oil dispersed. Boo.
Author:  B S [ Fri May 30, 2014 2:21 pm ]
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DMoneyAllstar wrote:
Jealous - you're already upgrading engines! ='( I went and rolled my project's Engine over a few times to keep the oil dispersed. Boo.

Lol

What was your Engine mount dropped anyways wasn't it 2.25 down and 2.25 back?
I have to make it again
Author:  DMoneyAllstar [ Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:11 pm ]
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B S wrote:
DMoneyAllstar wrote:
Jealous - you're already upgrading engines! ='( I went and rolled my project's Engine over a few times to keep the oil dispersed. Boo.

Lol

What was your Engine mount dropped anyways wasn't it 2.25 down and 2.25 back?
I have to make it again


Sounds about right. Its been so long, I don't remember. I do have my luan templates in the barn though, and will check.
Author:  B S [ Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:58 pm ]
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DMoneyAllstar wrote:
B S wrote:
DMoneyAllstar wrote:
Jealous - you're already upgrading engines! ='( I went and rolled my project's Engine over a few times to keep the oil dispersed. Boo.

Lol

What was your Engine mount dropped anyways wasn't it 2.25 down and 2.25 back?
I have to make it again


Sounds about right. Its been so long, I don't remember. I do have my luan templates in the barn though, and will check.

ok sweet thanks
Author:  B S [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:15 pm ]
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well...i sold my odyssey so im no longer a odyssey owner :shock:

i never got to install the 617 that's going into the pilot now



im going to sell all the odyssey parts i have so if your looking for something in particular PM me


what it looked like after i was done

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Author:  Kangaru [ Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:14 am ]
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To bad, good luck on the new venture, she looked dam good all black.
Author:  B S [ Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:29 am ]
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Kangaru wrote:
To bad, good luck on the new venture, she looked dam good all black.

Ya I'll miss her

but I might make another one in the future
Author:  fully [ Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:14 pm ]
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love the black..looks like mine only fenderless

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Author:  B S [ Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:28 pm ]
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fully wrote:
love the black..looks like mine only fenderless


I had fenders for it but I didn't want to waste them by painting them black
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