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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:00 am 
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Anyone ever tried ranger 900 shocks on there 350?

I have no idea of the length or the spring rates, but I can get set for cheap.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:10 am 
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According to a couple sellers on evilBay with tape measures in the pics, the 08-12 fronts are ~18" and the rear are ~16" E2E. But don't quote me on that. A lot of the Ranger stuff also fits the Rzr, so check their respective owner forums.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:39 pm 
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Those are not going to work.

The bottom of the shock requires a Heim joint to cycle through it's travel.

If they are truly 16 inch eye to eye then they are also too long and will cause the U joints to bind.

Rand


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:25 pm 
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Plus the FL350R dry-weight is ~600-lb and the Ranger is more like ~1300-lb.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:27 pm 
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Survey says?.....

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:41 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:49 pm 
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I will be making an attempt to do something with the stock rear oddy shocks.
It will be done this winter while I redo the spare machine since mine is totalled.
Will post results and what I did in the near future here.
Jknarfal is doing the same.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:49 pm 
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I started messing with them but I've been extremely busy. And all my spare time is going into rebuilding my banshee before thanksgiving. But f any info is needed I'd be glad to share what I know.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:15 pm 
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Randman wrote:
Those are not going to work.

The bottom of the shock requires a Heim joint to cycle through it's travel.

If they are truly 16 inch eye to eye then they are also too long and will cause the U joints to bind.

Rand
Why does it need a heim joint?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:56 pm 
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liduno wrote:
Randman wrote:
Those are not going to work.

The bottom of the shock requires a Heim joint to cycle through it's travel.

If they are truly 16 inch eye to eye then they are also too long and will cause the U joints to bind.

Rand
Why does it need a heim joint?


As the suspension moves up and down so does the angle of the shock on an fl350


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:24 am 
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liduno wrote:
Randman wrote:
Those are not going to work.

The bottom of the shock requires a Heim joint to cycle through it's travel.

If they are truly 16 inch eye to eye then they are also too long and will cause the U joints to bind.

Rand
Why does it need a heim joint?


Because of the design of the axle, when the suspension swings through it's up and down movements, the swing arm actually moves outward probably almost 2 inches. This necessitates the need for a Heim joint in the bottom of the shock. The top of the Showa shock has a steel bushing that is encapsulated in rubber which allows the shock to swing outwards. In my opinion, Honda should have used a Heim at the top of the shock also.

Rand


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:49 am 
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Randman wrote:
liduno wrote:
Randman wrote:
Those are not going to work.

The bottom of the shock requires a Heim joint to cycle through it's travel.

If they are truly 16 inch eye to eye then they are also too long and will cause the U joints to bind.

Rand
Why does it need a heim joint?


Because of the design of the axle, when the suspension swings through it's up and down movements, the swing arm actually moves outward probably almost 2 inches. This necessitates the need for a Heim joint in the bottom of the shock. The top of the Showa shock has a steel bushing that is encapsulated in rubber which allows the shock to swing outwards. In my opinion, Honda should have used a Heim at the top of the shock also.

Rand
This is where I got confused, I knew my stock shocks didn't have a heim joint.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:10 pm 
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liduno wrote:
Randman wrote:
liduno wrote:
Randman wrote:
Those are not going to work.

The bottom of the shock requires a Heim joint to cycle through it's travel.

If they are truly 16 inch eye to eye then they are also too long and will cause the U joints to bind.

Rand
Why does it need a heim joint?


Because of the design of the axle, when the suspension swings through it's up and down movements, the swing arm actually moves outward probably almost 2 inches. This necessitates the need for a Heim joint in the bottom of the shock. The top of the Showa shock has a steel bushing that is encapsulated in rubber which allows the shock to swing outwards. In my opinion, Honda should have used a Heim at the top of the shock also.

Rand
This is where I got confused, I knew my stock shocks didn't have a heim joint.


What shocks are you using?

Rand


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:33 pm 
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Randman wrote:
liduno wrote:
Randman wrote:
liduno wrote:
Randman wrote:
Those are not going to work.

The bottom of the shock requires a Heim joint to cycle through it's travel.

If they are truly 16 inch eye to eye then they are also too long and will cause the U joints to bind.

Rand
Why does it need a heim joint?


Because of the design of the axle, when the suspension swings through it's up and down movements, the swing arm actually moves outward probably almost 2 inches. This necessitates the need for a Heim joint in the bottom of the shock. The top of the Showa shock has a steel bushing that is encapsulated in rubber which allows the shock to swing outwards. In my opinion, Honda should have used a Heim at the top of the shock also.

Rand
This is where I got confused, I knew my stock shocks didn't have a heim joint.


What shocks are you using?

Rand
Just the stockers right now but they are beat.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:12 pm 
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The factory shocks have a heim joint at the bottom


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:48 pm 
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jknarfal wrote:
The factory shocks have a heim joint at the bottom
Mine have all been a steel sleeve in a rubber bushing.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:10 pm 
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Please post pictures.

As Jknarfal mentioned, Showa Ody shocks have a heim joint in the bottom of the shock. Either your shocks are mounted upside down or you are running another type of shock.

Rand


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:57 am 
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Randman wrote:
Please post pictures.

As Jknarfal mentioned, Showa Ody shocks have a heim joint in the bottom of the shock. Either your shocks are mounted upside down or you are running another type of shock.

Rand
I Just went out and looked, unless I removed the shock all I could see is the bolt head. I thought it was just like the top, maybe I never looked close enough.

Learn something new everyday.


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