Did anyone ever find a replacement for the discontinued bearing? 91007-HE0-004

honda lists the description as a "Bearing 62/32" You can get a 62/32 bearing but they are 17 mm wide. the Honda bearing is only 14 mm wide.

Looks like we might be screwed on this one guys.

Honda discontinued and no supplier for a replacement.

the ID is 32mm OD is 65mm. I wonder if we could find a bearing that is 14mm wide and an ID of 32mm, but a smaller OD then 65 and have a bushing machined?

We could try and get Honda to reproduce, but the only one getting reproduced would probably be us!!!

Any ideas?

Where in the trans does this bearing go?

it's the input shaft bearing clutch side - the one that blew on your tranny.

#16 on the microfiche

I cant remember the details of that bearing, you think a bushing would work with another bearing or is their room to machine something to make room for a wider bearing?

Just to recap the bearing is 32mm ID 65mm OD and 14mm wide ?

Why not just use a 6007 bearing with a 1.5mm stainless sleeve on the inside and outside?

35mm ID x 62mm OD x 14mm wide

I have Mikes spare Pilot trans on the bench I will tear it apart this week and look close at the inside to see if a wider bearing can be used and or use the 6007, the 6007 is the rear axle bearing for the ATC or for the Pilot? If so I have some here I can try to make a bushing and see if I think it will work, what I cant remember is id their is any thrust loads on that bearing or if the input shaft simply passes through the bearing, if their is no thrust I cant see why the bushing would not work?

my Engine guy buys direct and says he can get all our bearing in which ever brand we need. I will talk to him tomorrow and see what he says.

looking at the shaft, there is a stop or ridge between the bearing and the countershaft bushing (that's the bushing that gets oiled from the spout on the clutch cover, which was damaged on yours.)It may be possible to face 3mm off the bearing side to accomidate the 62/32 (thicker) 17mm bearing. there does not appear to be anything else that wouldbe in the way.

This would give a larger bearing possible helping with the failure you had in 07.

I measured the bearing as best i could and i believe those measurements are correct.

Please double check me.

as far as i know, of the 6 bearings, #16 is the only special one, so this would allow use to keep the pilot tranny running on standard bearings. I do not know if the needle bearing is a standard or not.

the #16 bearing in my pilot, which as far as i know is original, has a NTN number stamped on it - SCO6A33 which obviously is not a standard bearing number.

Well I have called so many dealers that I'm not sure how many i have called. I couldn't find the 91007-HE0-004 bearing anywhere. I've tried randy, bearing houses, even spoke with honda. I finally got the idea to call ATV racing, and they have the bearing in stock. They said they had a handful. They are selling for about $34.00, they also have the discontinued right axel seal 91223-VM0-004 selling for about $18.00. they even had gasket sets made, center gasket and clutch cover gasket selling for about $35.00. I was even told they have had the rear knuckle manufactured, did not get a price.

He said he had six or seven pilots there for service and 3 transmission there to have the cv cups removed. I would hate to see what the labor cost is. But it's great to hear they are keepin the pilot alive.

He also mentioned possibly manufaturing the final shaft.


Any way i thought i would let you guys know.

My tranny now has new bearings and seals. I'm sure glad i could find the parts i needed. i don't want to beat this bearing/seal issue to death but sooner or later your tranny will need bearings and seal also. I want to pass on my experience finding seals and bearings.

To summarize...

Bearing part number 91007-HE0-004 number 16 on the reduction gear diagram is discontinued. The only place i know of left to purchase is ATV Racing.

Bearing part number 91008-HE0-000 number 17 on the reduction gear diagram is still available from Honda.

These two bearings are specials. They run on the input shaft. The other four bearings are standard bearings as far I know still available from honda. One was on back order so I purchased an NTN bearing from a local bearing house.

Seal part number 91223-VM0-004 number 18 on the reduction case diagram is discontinued. This seal is for the final shaft right side. I believe it is a special seal as it has the steel ring on the outside of the seal. This seal may be available from a bearing house I do not know, but i'm sure it will not have the steel side sheild. The only place i know of to pruchase is ATV Racing.

The other three seals as fas as i know are available from honda.

Hope this info helps.

If you have not already change your oil in your reduction case and Engine balancer!!!!!!!

freshenedup tranny installed. Decided to buy an extra set, just waiting on the #16 bearings from ATVR.

Anyone have any luck finding a bearing to replace #16 91007-HE0-004? Any ideas what we can do moving forward? These discontinued parts are getting me down! I'm surprised there are not more comments on this subject. Maybe I'm to concerned about it. The pilot will not run without a bearing, hate to wait until one of us has a break down and then try to solve.

Hoser - did you ever get a chance to review the tranny you have? Has anyone else ordered bearings and seals?

When I spoke to service honda they check inventory for the #17 bearing and they said there were only 6 left in the country. I bet they will be dicontinued once sold.

I have#15 and #17 on the way however I still need #16. I will call ATV and order it. As far as the main shaft seals go I sourced them thru Ebay and bought 8 each. The one does not have the metal gaurd however they are made of Viton so that helps some.

Well, I just got off the phone with Jay with ATVR and told me he has no gearbox bearings left at all.

I don't think the metal shield on the seal is going to be a problem I think it was probably just a extra measure Honda took to protect the seal, time will tell.

Can you post some detail pictures of the seals once you get them?

I have them. I will shoot some pics and post them. I ended up with two different styles for the right side. The Viton and an uncoated metal style. I will be using the Viton. They are coated around the edge that is pressed into the case and will seal better than a bare metal .

The final shaft is still available part# 23231-HE0-000

What are the dementions for the #17 bearing? What makes it a special baering?

Does any one know if it is special or if we can just order a standard bearing like the lower ones?

Sorry it took me a while but I had to get out the old bearings and measure.

These are the 2 bearing that support the gear box input shaft on the FL400.

#16 on Hondas Parts diagram
part number 91007-HE0-004
Honda parts diagram shows it as a 62/32
standard 62/32 bearing measures 65mm OD , 32mm ID, and 17mm wide
91007-HE0-004 actually measures 65mm OD, 32mm ID, and 14mm wide

The stamping on the oem bearing is SC06A33 JAPAN PX NTN (very hard to read)

#17 on Hondas Parts diagram
part number 91008-HE0-000
Honda part diagram shows it is a 6007
standard 6007 bearing measures 62mm OD, 35mm ID, and 14mm wide
91008-HE0-000 actually measures 62mm OD, 35mm ID, and 12mm wide

The stamping on the oem bearing is SC07A08 JAPAN PX NTN (very hard to read)

It appears that both Bearings are thinner then the standard bearing.

All other gear box bearing appear to be standard bearings.

A search does not return either one of them bearings looks like next time I have a trans apart will have to see of a wider bearing could be made to fit or special bearings will have to be ordered?

I wonder if the bearing stops on the input shaft could be machined down, faced, to accommodate the thicker bearings.?