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Pilot Trans CSI 2007
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Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:11 pm ]
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Carnage from the Glamis trip...

Drakman and I were taking a run down sand hwy. we started from the south end of Gecko rd. where we were camped, we made it 14.1 miles, I had just passed Drakman and caught a whiff of Engine oil it seem strange I smelled it after passing him not before so I stopped to see where it was coming from, I got out and seen oil all over my Engine and trans, after looking real close I could see it was coming out the input shaft of my trans.

I removed the gas tank and rinsed off some of the sand while it was drying I took some pics.

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:12 pm ]
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Blue arrow is pointing to the seal

Yellow is where you have to notch the trans for clearance

Green is where I removed material from the back of the helix.

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:13 pm ]
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More views

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Author:  Turbotexas [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:22 pm ]
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Were you able to fix this at Glamis??? or just keep putting oil in it till you got home???
Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:27 pm ]
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Turbotexas wrote:
Were you able to fix this at Glamis??? or just keep putting oil in it till you got home???


Drakman towed me back to camp with his Tiger, it was a great tow truck too!

At the least the input bearing and seal is history, I didnt drive it any more for the trip I am now just getting around to doing the autopsy to see what the damage is, I will be pulling the Engine and trans then taking the trans apart, stay tuned for more pics and hopefully not too much internal damage :shock:
Author:  Turbotexas [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:35 pm ]
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So I guess I should start looking for another ride to bring with me everywhere... LOL

I do have this though...

ebay Item number: 160089824675

I need to get a spare Engine someday too...
I would hate to be a 1000 miles from home and then have to quit all my fun...
Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:38 pm ]
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Turbotexas wrote:
So I guess I should start looking for another ride to bring with me everywhere... LOL

I do have this though...


I need to get a spare Engine someday too...
I would hate to be a 1000 miles from home and then have to quit all my fun...


Spare parts and rides are a must!

I rode the 400EX and my TRX250R for the rest of the trip, I enjoy the quads just about as much as the Pilot so it was not a big deal, I wish I had brought my 3 wheeler also :-)
Author:  Drakman [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:40 pm ]
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That trans looks like a good buy. You're gonna need an extra trailer to haul all the parts you seem to be collecting.
Author:  Drakman [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:42 pm ]
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hoser wrote:
Turbotexas wrote:
Were you able to fix this at Glamis??? or just keep putting oil in it till you got home???


Drakman towed me back to camp with his Tiger, it was a great tow truck too!

At the least the input bearing and seal is history, I didnt drive it any more for the trip I am now just getting around to doing the autopsy to see what the damage is, I will be pulling the Engine and trans then taking the trans apart, stay tuned for more pics and hopefully not too much internal damage :shock:


I don't recall a brace on the Pilot transmission imput shaft, with the extra HP you now have, do you think it might be a good idea to work one as you put it back together?
Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:46 pm ]
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Drakman wrote:
hoser wrote:
Turbotexas wrote:
Were you able to fix this at Glamis??? or just keep putting oil in it till you got home???


Drakman towed me back to camp with his Tiger, it was a great tow truck too!

At the least the input bearing and seal is history, I didnt drive it any more for the trip I am now just getting around to doing the autopsy to see what the damage is, I will be pulling the Engine and trans then taking the trans apart, stay tuned for more pics and hopefully not too much internal damage :shock:


I don't recall a brace on the Pilot transmission imput shaft, with the extra HP you now have, do you think it might be a good idea to work one as you put it back together?


Yup I will be looking into that when it goes back together.
Author:  adnoh [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:10 pm ]
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I hope the shaft was not damaged. This is the one I would to see get duplacated If "H" is so kind to let it be coppied. Please,Please,Please. I'll quit begging know. I did notice that the brigs car had a outside carrier on it. You might want to take a peak. Thanks again for the calc post. I have set up some dyno time to check the rear wheel verser calculated H.P.
Author:  adnoh [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:14 pm ]
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H, I do have a question on your bearing failure. When your drive runs out is it bottoming out the driven causing undo stress on the bearings or is there enough slack in the drive run out to take up stress. The heliux look like it was running out all the way.
Author:  adnoh [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:16 pm ]
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The heliux stops look damaged or was it just because of the bearing failure.
Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:30 pm ]
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Engine and trans are out, when I install they wont be assembled as a unit lol sucker is heavy.



:shock:

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:47 pm ]
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I used a 90D comet clutch its a replacement for the FL350 Odyssey driven clutch, naturally I had to use the puller to remove it grrrr

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:48 pm ]
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Once off you can see the damaged seal

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:50 pm ]
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Axle stubs came right out and the "hoser seals" once again worked perfectly keeping out the elements, paying attention here HONDA!!!! I am throwing you a FREE bone you don't need to pay any engineer the work is done :shock:

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:52 pm ]
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With all that crap out of the way I could split the cases, here is the as found condition of the input shaft and bearing.

Yeah no balls!

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:53 pm ]
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Oh here they are

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:53 pm ]
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More crap

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Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:56 pm ]
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I installed a small fuel filter on the case breather to keep out dust, anybody else do this?


I still need to clean up the parts and look at each one with a magnifying glass for damage but right now it looks like all I need is all new bearings and seals..

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Author:  Lee [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:58 pm ]
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Quote:
paying attention here HONDA!!!! I am throwing you a FREE bone you don't need to pay any engineer the work is done


Your about 19 years too late.

It’s a little bit scary to think about the balls sitting down in the bottom of the case while you got towed back, that big gear keeps on turning.
Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:08 pm ]
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Lee wrote:
Quote:
paying attention here HONDA!!!! I am throwing you a FREE bone you don't need to pay any engineer the work is done


Your about 19 years too late.

It’s a little bit scary to think about the balls sitting down in the bottom of the case while you got towed back, that big gear keeps on turning.


Oh yeah you should have seen me cringe when I seen them their, 14.1 miles at 25-30 mpg in tow!
Author:  Turbotexas [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:02 pm ]
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So much for just adding oil and riding on!!! LOL
I am looking over the pics and trying to find hoser seals???
Author:  hoser [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:21 pm ]
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Turbotexas wrote:
So much for just adding oil and riding on!!! LOL
I am looking over the pics and trying to find hoser seals???


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