Message subject: Re: Hello Dave
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scpilot66Sent: Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:16 am
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Dave-Co Message
Dave-Co wrote:
Ok Steve I failed you in the 2 days I had to work with. If you think I made changes to save money you know what you can do with that. AGAIN I clearly explaned my reasons for things I did, I have got everything except the front shocks at prices you could never touch tried to save you at every turn. I had no time so I don't feel bad, everything could be made right with the damn thing here but you are to cheap for that. I should have sent you on your way when you got here and started picking about crap you have no idea about. I don't care if I didnt have things totally ready, I could give a damn, my son and I busted our asses. The ball joints are yours, I refuse to do something about that because I know they are yours. and yes all 4 are yours, after your bitch fit I put the other I had replaced back. No i didnt tell you nor did I need to. I can look youi square in the eye they are yours.None of this is cut and dry I did my best with the time I had even going further than I should have.I was under zero obligation to remount the links for you and make others, none., none. If anything is wrong I cant do anything with out it here. With it here and you not it could all be staightend out but I can do nothing with it there. You are full of it up to your neck on the rear arms, completly wrong all kinds of pilots are running with them including mine.. I could work on your pilot every day for a year and you would pick it apart. 2 fricking days is not enough time including PS. I have no doubt I wont see the money that is owed me I should never have let you talk me into fronting some one like you. You need to do all and everything yourself because no mater what no one will make you even a little happy. I don't know where to go from here because I cant make anything right with it there, and no I wont just start making new things for it. Everyone has given me a month at least yes I have remade things to get things working the way I want that's why I get the time. I don't know what to do but I can do nothing with out it here. but if you keep on with this ball joint BS I will do nothing. I don't lie to anyone. Especially over a stupid atv ball joint that goes to a stupid little buggy. I have more integrity than that so if you still doubt me I am done.
OK Dave, I have tried to give you a chance to make things right and you have now insulted my intelligence, called me cheap and say I am full of it up to my neck. I have talked you in to nothing absolutely nothing. Some one like me, really wow!!!
You had the exact amount of time you asked for, actually you had 3 days when originally you said 2. This is not my fault, it is yours.
I never asked you to save me anything, I asked you for a perfect kit and you said no problem from the beginning, it was very clear from the beginning the level of quality I wanted in my kit, I waited for you to do my kit yourself to insure this. I cut no corners bought the best heims, the best everything or so I thought and you say I am cheap.
You say I was picking about crap I have no idea about, see that is one thing I noticed with you right away. You must think you are the only one that knows anything about anything, well I have great experience with ball joints, I am very good at what I do as well, I am also smart and I know and recognize when things are not what they are supposed to be.
I told you the first time I ever talked to you and many other times when we talked that I am a perfectionist that I wanted my pilot to be show room floor condition, I even used the term MUSEUM QUALITY, I made it VERY VERY CLEAR to you. I have been nothing but STRAIGHT UP HONEST and VERY DETAILED in what I expected from you, YOU SURE AS HELL DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY PERFECTIONISM WHEN I WAS SENDING YOU MY MONEY NOW DID YOU.
After me waiting and having my kit and heims paid for since 3/15/2014 and traveling almost 800 miles to get to you, you do not care if you had everything ready, in your words you could give a damn. Wow just wow!!!
So after my bitch as you say and after you had told me that you replaced one of my ball joints because I sent you a loose one or wait was it damaged when it was welded yeah that was your story after I told you mine about the ball joints I picked out, kind of chickenshit like that you gave me a looser one with out telling me, GOOD HONEST MAN AREN'T YOU. It is very funny how I got upset so fast when I got there within 5 minutes, also kind of funny how you picked up on it so fast and got nervous, also funny that what I was upset about is the fact that I recognized it was not my ball joint, also funny that it was the first ball joint I picked up and just happened to be the one you replaced, also funny that when I was not happy with it you said I will get you another tighter one Steve what ever you want no problem, also funny how you tried to say they were mine because the grease was cleaned out, also funny how all the ones on your shelf had the grease cleaned out and the fact that the grease has to be cleaned before welding anyway. You knew right away that I recognized that the ball joints were not mine, none of them, I believe that you had a kit to build and my stuff was sitting there built so you decided to give mine away and build me different later since you had so much time before I would be out there.
When I pitched my bitch as you say, I blew up and told you I would load my shit and leave this was within 30 minutes of being there, you immediately told me that you would do anything needed to make it right and we right away went and you bought the proper weld in bungs for the front swing arms instead of the cheap ass nuts you had welded in the ends of the arms and then that night you swap out and give me a loose ball joint. Wow, this is what you consider being Honest and making it right. You know you had me in tears after being at your home for 30 minutes or so, I called my wife and broke down crying to her that night my first night there, I talked to a very good friend the next morning after sleeping only about an hour that night because I was so upset and broke down crying to him. I have sacrificed so much and waited a long time for this kit and you totally ruined it absolutely and completely. Not to mention my wife being worried, very very upset and not sleeping very much the whole time I was there.
So using a 30 cent nut with maybe a 1/4 of threads or so next to a $10.00 proper weld in bung with around 1 inch of threads or so is not saving you money and is as strong as the 1 inch of threads in the bung next to 1/4 of threads in the nut and the fact that you have advertized your kits with the weld in bungs, I guess I do know what I can do with that. Spell out the truth that is what I can do with that. Did you drop the price of your kits when you started using cheaper products, I mean you do say you are trying to save everyone money but still produce quality, you sure did not drop the price on my kit as a matter of fact you raised it from $1000.00 on 10/15/2013 to $1300.00 on 12/20/2013 when I made my first payment.
On the rear upper swing arms alone you are saving $60.00 in bungs, you did say they were $15.00 each for the bungs. Also you advertized everything on your kits was being built with 4130 yet now the rear upper swing arms are being built with mild steel, the rear upper swing arm bungs have been replaced with mild steel with a nut that has 1/4 inch of threads or so welded to the end, the hoops mild steel, the rear lower arms mild steel which I am fine with the rear lower arms built from that. I know I got the rear upper swing arms that are built as advertized I am just stating what you are doing as opposed to what you have advertized and sold you kits on.
You say you have remade things to get them working right, if your kits are built with the quality you said they were why do you have to remake things aren't jigs made so that they all come out the same every time. And do you only remake things when they are there, does that mean that people that have you ship the kits to them are shit out of luck if something is not right and needs to be remade.
You gave me your word when I left that if anything was not right to please please contact you and you would take care of it, you said this many times to me, well I have contacted you and from what I can tell you are telling me to go pound sand!!!