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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:32 am 
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Poleclimber67 wrote:
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I have no.4 clips if you need them

Thanks Pete...I didn't see this until after I ordered two of them...but thank you! U don't have an extra ball from a CV do ya ;0

I'll have a look....... pretty sure i'll have a used one somewhere....


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:04 am 
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Mudbogger wrote:
Poleclimber67 wrote:
hoser wrote:
Back when I made the trip to Rockford drive line http://www.pilotodyssey.com/rockford.htm
they talked about buying a new machine to make ATV axles said they could then duplicate any CV axle on the market including the odd splines that Honda used I wonder if they ever bought this machine.

Maybe they can even make axles for the Drakarts but that wont cure the axle plunge problems that tear up the axles.

These guys list CV boot kits for the Pilot
http://motormasteratv.com/index.php/honda-cv-boot-kits/

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The inboard boot fits the Civic wonder if any of the other CV parts are also shared like the clips he is looking for?


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hoser wrote:
Back when I made the trip to Rockford drive line http://www.pilotodyssey.com/rockford.htm
they talked about buying a new machine to make ATV axles said they could then duplicate any CV axle on the market including the odd splines that Honda used I wonder if they ever bought this machine.

Maybe they can even make axles for the Drakarts but that wont cure the axle plunge problems that tear up the axles.

These guys list CV boot kits for the Pilot
http://motormasteratv.com/index.php/honda-cv-boot-kits/

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The inboard boot fits the Civic wonder if any of the other CV parts are also shared like the clips he is looking for?


http://www.pilotodyssey.com/PO/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=10482&p=122851#p122851
I thought the same bout the civic...the outside diameter or cup and axle size must be the same for boot to work, so I'm getting the clip is same or very close... Found a couple clips and ordered them up today..thanks to a helpful member, can't thank you guys enough


The Honda Civic part will fit, I have used them several times, the clips at the end of the axle spline too can be looked up under the Honda Civic car-they are the same. I believe in fact the axles in the car itself are identical to the Pilot, but I have never actually checked the entire axle from a car before.
In fact here is the outer retainer clip part number:
44319-611-010 That should come up for the Honda Civic front axle retainer clip-think it is late model car the year escapes me.sorry.

Man look at me go here fella!!!! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
that is some fantastic info.....imagine if we could something that used the same final?? ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:04 am 
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Poledancer has an extra Ball? Image Awesome! Image


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:47 am 
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bugeye59 wrote:
Poledancer has an extra Ball? Image Awesome! Image

heheheheheheheheh


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:48 am 
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Mud - that part number in for the pilot clip. what is he civic part number?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:52 am 
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I guess it fits both. Looks like this is the car 1983 HONDA CIVIC 5-DOOR. Now the big questions ARE THE AXLES THE SAME


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:02 am 
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Mudbogger wrote:
Poleclimber67 wrote:
hoser wrote:
Back when I made the trip to Rockford drive line http://www.pilotodyssey.com/rockford.htm
they talked about buying a new machine to make ATV axles said they could then duplicate any CV axle on the market including the odd splines that Honda used I wonder if they ever bought this machine.

Maybe they can even make axles for the Drakarts but that wont cure the axle plunge problems that tear up the axles.

These guys list CV boot kits for the Pilot
http://motormasteratv.com/index.php/honda-cv-boot-kits/

Image

The inboard boot fits the Civic wonder if any of the other CV parts are also shared like the clips he is looking for?


http://www.pilotodyssey.com/PO/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=10482&p=122851#p122851
hoser wrote:
Back when I made the trip to Rockford drive line http://www.pilotodyssey.com/rockford.htm
they talked about buying a new machine to make ATV axles said they could then duplicate any CV axle on the market including the odd splines that Honda used I wonder if they ever bought this machine.

Maybe they can even make axles for the Drakarts but that wont cure the axle plunge problems that tear up the axles.

These guys list CV boot kits for the Pilot
http://motormasteratv.com/index.php/honda-cv-boot-kits/

Image

The inboard boot fits the Civic wonder if any of the other CV parts are also shared like the clips he is looking for?


http://www.pilotodyssey.com/PO/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=10482&p=122851#p122851
I thought the same bout the civic...the outside diameter or cup and axle size must be the same for boot to work, so I'm getting the clip is same or very close... Found a couple clips and ordered them up today..thanks to a helpful member, can't thank you guys enough


The Honda Civic part will fit, I have used them several times, the clips at the end of the axle spline too can be looked up under the Honda Civic car-they are the same. I believe in fact the axles in the car itself are identical to the Pilot, but I have never actually checked the entire axle from a car before.
In fact here is the outer retainer clip part number:
44319-611-010 That should come up for the Honda Civic front axle retainer clip-think it is late model car the year escapes me.sorry.

Man look at me go here fella!!!! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
I agree...once again you guys are great in here... I may have to investigate a Lil on the axles just for the hell of it


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:02 pm 
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I wonder http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/MC/ ... Mgod7BwAvQ" .".." .".." ."..


Right and Left


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:11 pm 
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Cheap enough if the right splines and dimensions. :-)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:28 pm 
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hoser wrote:
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Cheap enough if the right splines and dimensions. :-)
that would be great!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:29 pm 
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pilotpete1 wrote:
Poleclimber67 wrote:
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I have no.4 clips if you need them

Thanks Pete...I didn't see this until after I ordered two of them...but thank you! U don't have an extra ball from a CV do ya ;0

I'll have a look....... pretty sure i'll have a used one somewhere....
if ya do lemme know!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:36 pm 
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http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem ... 0990553560. Ill do some measuring when I get home tonight!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:47 pm 
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can someone measure the collapsed distance and count the splines on a pilot axle axle?

The end of the pouter is not threaded. May be the only difference. I bet Speed could machine threads ????


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:07 pm 
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I'll check tonight as well.....could u imagine if we just found complete axles for $37? :) :) :)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:18 pm 
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ya tear a boot and just change the axle :-)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:21 pm 
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rmesser wrote:
ya tear a boot and just change the axle :-)

Wouldn't be near as damn messy that's for sure :P and here I am searching for a clip and a spare ball....lol.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:33 pm 
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bugeye59 wrote:
Poledancer has an extra Ball? Image Awesome! Image
lmao. We all need a spare ball.....maybe the older I get The more I need one ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:25 pm 
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Damn!!! Just checked...I counted 25 splines on the outer shaft and the length of our is bout 22 3/4" I'm still betting axle itself is the same though.....bummer I'm still looking at other year Hondas as well and some are our length with threaded end but have 26 splines!! Maybe somebody else verify as I'm going cross eyed trying to count the splines!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:58 pm 
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I counted 25 splines on the inner hub. So this may be a good option for inner joint and boots. I guess the only way to know for sure is to buy one. I also counted 25 splines on the outer.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:16 pm 
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rmesser wrote:
can someone measure the collapsed distance and count the splines on a pilot axle axle?

The end of the pouter is not threaded. May be the only difference. I bet Speed could machine threads ????


So has this axle been ruled out,did anybody buy it?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:15 am 
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Just a thought... Would a trx300 front axle work? Looks damn near identical.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:40 pm 
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Correction a honda trx400 front axle is the same length. Going to see on Sunday if identical


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