atcdude123 your reply was all emotional driven and not based on any facts to support anything you have said its all assumptions, their are millions of replies and comments like yours all over the web I was looking for more factual data like exactly what happen the last time minimum wage was raised I ask for factual data because sometimes what seems like common sense to you and me what will happen does not necessarily happen in real life .

So if your armed without facts I guess the thing to do is drive by where they are having a informational picket and yell "go get a real job" to those who cant find employment elsewhere?

I think a lot of these stepping stone jobs has turned into career jobs for many simply because of the times, lack of jobs after the crash of 2008 has stalled many from improving their lives and moving on to something better, this lingering in the low pay zone is forcing many to seek more pay any way they can, look at ALL the new jobs that's been created in the past 10 years just a bunch of low paying jobs with no benefits then you get some loser like noboma on the news bragging about the "new jobs" that's been created.

I try to avoid eating out when ever I can simply because of the low quality of the food, long lost is things like texture and seasoning that is suppose to bring out the true flavor in the food your eating.

For example look at any toasted bun, it looks toasted but they might as well have air brushed on that toasted look because the bun is just a bunch of mush and air, their is no crust on the bun the only reason to toast one is to firm it up give it more texture, look at the bun if you take just the bun and push down on it with your hand its about 3 layers of paper thick their is no more texture in the bun its like they have developed a bun like bubble packing material remove the air their is nothing their.

Disassemble a regular burger, order it with nothing on it, the bun does not taste like buns when I was growing up the flavor is gone, taste the meat not sure how you cook any cheap meat and can get that taste, I have had some good burgers done on a flat top at a non fast food place that taste like the old days, mcdonalds might as well microwave or boil their burgers, burger king is slightly better but does not have the flavor they had 20 years ago.

That being said so how many MILLIONS of dollars will raising the minimum wage put back into the economy the first check after it becomes law? Someone knows these numbers it has happen before, they can tell you almost to the dollar how much money would be brought in when they legalize gambling or legalize new intoxicants but have no numbers for giving someone a simple raise hmmm

I know business owners has had TRILLIONS of dollars they are not spending on hold for what 10 years now so you can throw away that excuse, the Walton kids make how many BILLIONS of dollars after tax profit each year cant tell me their bottom line is hurting if it was they would have only been making MILLIONS in profits all these years, want to play the stock holders cards as your excuse then maybe these companies should just be employee owned so your not a slave to stock holders.

What about all these business owners who has TRILLIONS of dollars they have funneled out of the USA to avoid paying taxes the IRS and others is working overtime trying to catch these people.

How many TRILLIONS of dollars has the USA spent protecting all these multinational companies with interest in areas of the world that need protecting not to mention all the LIVES that has been lost protecting these same business interest.

The only fact that I do know is that stuff costs a lot more than I did when I was 16 making $6/hr. I'm not sure that's do to the minimum wage though. I've out paced relying on minimum wage going up as my raise. I'd quit. I landed a pretty decent job at petsmart. Wasn't a hard job to get. It was hard to keep for many. Decent jobs expect you to show up on time and work while your there. You can also only call off 12 times a year. Between 10 days paid vacation, 2 paid personal days, and 12 points people would still get fired by pointing out. How pathetic. I got tired of the job so I saved up $1500 and sold my old boat to pay for truck driving school. Went to part time weekends(20-24hrs a week) to pay my bills while I was in school. I sacraficed to win. I'm not getting rich here and it's a lot of hours but it is the easiest job that I know of. I get paid to sit in line and read, take naps, polish my truck, and goof off on my phone with you guys. Cost me $3400 to quit breaking my back. It's standard to gross $1000/wk+ in the trucking industry. I usually make a little over that and I work day shift, home every night, and off most weekends. I guess we'll keep it our little secret that they could triple their income or more for $3400. I like knowing I could lose my job today and be driving somewhere else by Monday.

Lol if you know me you know I'd ride by yelling get a real job. I'm not bashful. Heck I'd call around and get someone to teach me how to yell it in Spanish so the workers would understand me.

I don't eat at places with toasted buns. Maybe I'm nuts but I always think it's just an old dried up bun and their like "we'll just tell this idiot it's toasted. Scrape the mold off of it".

I'm not a fan of big business either. I know first hand what working for a place that's all about pleasing shareholders at the expense of it's employee's. We could get paid plenty more. Quite the money making racket they have here for as long as the corporate welfare keeps coming. I put 15% into retirement, have spending money, and money left over to save so I can't really complain. If it happens I'll be expecting my $7/hr raise to. VALEMOS MAS $25 homes

I don't know most the details but I think any raise will be structured over like 5 years its not like tomorrow they are getting a 5.00 per hr raise, I am sure their are plenty of loopholes employers can use to not pay it also.

Most the media coverage on all sides and from all agendas are spewing only things that fuel emotional thoughts they are not delivering facts like I am seeking in a calm meaningful coherent way it seems to me ALL sides are seeking mass confusion.

Their is a lot of complaints about the unions getting involved, who did they expect to represent the workers that have no representation haha the only reason unions exists on this planet is out of reaction to what employers has done historically to workers.

I don't know of one happy work group that was treated right by a employer who then went on to seek union representation and organized, they 'organize labor' for a reason, so they stand a chance when it comes time to negotiate .

My first job out of high school was in a factory as a maintenance mechanic apprentice 3 months later they had a vote to go union or not, I had no clue what was going on all I had to rely on was what all the long time employees had told me, the main issue was the company had a profit sharing plan to compensate workers, work harder, the more profit company makes then the more the bonus the workers receive, problem was regardless how much profit the company made they always had a reason or excuse to not compensate the employees, the employees had enough and said to put it on the check, their was other issues too but that was the big one, they never passed the vote while I was their and it was not my fight anyways I was the new guy lol I was happy the entire time I worked their and was treated like gold but I was in maintenance not on the production side so it was a different world.

When I got that job it was about a 55% raise over my minimum wage go no where job lol

From what I see on the news today about the protest and strikes it all looks inter city for the most part, I hope they get their raises and stay in the shit hole big cities they live in we don't need more of them hood rats moving out here to the real world lol

People are stubborn sometimes. I brought up the union idea at my job. My last raise was $0.40. They cry broke at raise time but the next thing out of their mouth is talking about billion with a B profits. The prime minister(I think that's what he's called there) of Australia shut down the deal they had to make their biggest purchase ever lol. They were trying to buy the biggest grain company there. Close to 300 elavators. Would have gave them a monopoly on the grain industry. Must not want to pay corporate welfare like the US does. They don't care about anything but money but the guys are afraid to do it. They're afraid they'll get fired. They all say they're tired of working 13-14hrs a day and they want consistent hours, the ability to make plans like go to their kids ball games, and more money. They all want rights when it comes to vacation like them telling you too bad we're too busy or will be too busy for you to use your days even if its 6 months in advance. They pay out at the end of the year which is cool but they would rather you never take a day off and just cut you a check for your vacation. Plus all the silly rules and getting written up because of something wearing out on the truck. For instance I got wrote up once because the air compressor went out on my truck. Lol I don't give a crap because I know how stupid it is but some guys it really hurts their feelings. The truth is anything that costs money has to be someone's fault in the corporate world and it needs to be followed up on. Job security issues. An example of that one of the old guys at work. His 55th year as a truck driver 17 with this company. Got in his 1st accident EVER this spring. 55 years of driving and they fired him for it. They all want the stuff a union could help with but they're afraid to take a risk for it. I'm happy with the job really. Of coarse i'd like more money and the job security but everything else is great. Good benefits. great retirement. Maybe if I had kids the hours would bother me but I'm fine with them now. Everybody sits around and whines but they don't have the stones to try and change it.

"Secret Service Director Julia Pierson resigns" http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/politics/ ... index.html
So who got fired when over 12 million illegals flooded over our borders ILLEGALLY?

Protecting the borders at the white house seems important what about our nations borders, how many MILLIONS will the SS spend in the next 12 months fortifying the WH and getting its security back up to snuff?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/cri ... story.html

Think the mutts in DC understand how the land owners at our southern borders feels now?

And don't forget about the 3,00 US Army soldiers sent to Africa for Ebola .
http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/16/obama ... bat-ebola/

I bet 3,000 soldiers could help secure our southern boarder..

Bob

Lol isn't that ironic. Omar Gonzalez sounds awfully Latino. They shouldn't have arrested him. He should now get free health care, food stamps, and all the other government benefits whilst stealing someone's job in the White House. Oh wait. He's got papers and he's a veteran. Piss on him right.

All the illegal immigrant sympathizers need to read this http://nypost.com/2014/11/23/city-schoo ... -children/

How much will the taxes in your neighborhood go up to support these illegals.

"The DOE refused to discuss the exact numbers of recently enrolled children, claiming it would violate student privacy. Officials ignored questions about the cost."

So TAX PAYERS have no right to know how much of their money is being spent on ILLEGALS?

"But the costs could soar, because the youths — many of them victims of poverty and abuse — will need state-mandated English-language instruction, free or reduced-price lunch, and a range of other services, including psychological counseling, medical and dental."

Now would be a good time to put it to a individuals vote, ALL Americans need to decide if were going to keep all the ILLEGALS or round them up and boot them out of the USA, if you vote to keep them then you automatically go into the 50% tax bracket to pay for your grand idea, if you don't show up to vote its assumed your for keeping the illegals and you automatically go into the bleeding heart tax bracket of 50% + to cover the cost.

How much more hidden cost will their be for these ILLEGALS?

Ever notice all these ILLEGALS are coming from Hispanic countries, ever notice most if not ALL these Hispanic countries they are FLEEING are complete failures and shit holes NOW they are flocking to the USA to lower our standards of living.

I have nothing against Hispanics but you cant not ignore the simple FACTS, if they want respect then they need to earn it!

How long before the USA turns into same POS loser country like all these ILLEGALS are leaving to come here?

could not have said it better myself.

The city’s per-pupil spending in the 2012-2013 academic year averaged $20,749, which would bring the total for the migrant kids to $48.7 million.

No doubt the cost per ILLEGAL will be similar in your neighborhood and once word gets out all the freebies your giving them their will be more.

Thanks to all the past administrations for NOT enforcing current border control laws and immigration laws, the republicans reformed immigration back in 1986 then did absolutely nothing to ensure the reform was enforced, properly administrated, funded bringing us over 12 million ILLEGALS too pay for today.

Back in 1954 we simply implemented "Operation Wetback" to cure the EXACT SAME PROBLEM Google it, NOW your considered a "racist " for thinking of such a solution to the exact same problem.

I get a good laugh every time Texas governor Rick Perry complains about immigration and beats the republican war drums, he needs to call former governor GW Bush and complain to him GW did nothing when he was running Texas and president for 8 years now all of the sudden Texas is in crisis the republicants created this immigration problem and as usual all they can do is be outsmarted by the left every step of the way, the republican answer is to lay down and play the victims again, funny part is they are victims of their OWN POLICIES. NOW that the republicans control both houses they are still republicants lol

Research why the UK was forced to reform their immigration laws recently the USA needs to learn from their mistakes of rescuing people from the shit hole countries the illegals came from.

“We want the brightest and best innovators and entrepreneurs to choose Britain as the best place to start their next businesses so we’ve said 2000 extra places for graduate entrepreneurs including 1,000 for MBA graduates and new support to back foreign investors and entrepreneurs including those who are starting small scale but could end up running the blue-chip businesses of tomorrow.

The USA denies those with proven higher education and a solid past work history they deny those that can RAISE the standard of living in the USA, deny those that can improve the quality of life for Americans.

I don't even know why anyone is talking about it. The republicans are crying about it. The democrats are trying to be the hero to the illegal Mexicans yet they're really doing nothing. "We won't deport you". Well what's new about that?? I've never heard of anyone being deported. Just a bunch of politicians flapping their lips and wasting people's time. Does sound like if they pay their taxes they can become citizens? How can you prove how long they've been here or how much income they have made? Sounds nice but I don't think you could find out the truth unless they admit it.

The penalty for not paying taxes is?

The penalty for coming here ILLEGALLY is?

The illegals regardless of the excuse they give has proven to be dishonest law breakers WHY would we want more dishonest law breakers in America?

Whats the incentive to come forward and pay taxes they already have everything they need, free everything.

If the INS wont go after them NOW and deport them you think they are going to go hunt them down for not coming forward and not paying taxes haha

No doubt the ILLEGALS are laughing their asses off at how dumb Americans really are.

Agreed. What are they trying to do? Are they trying to drum up votes for the election that's 2 years away? I don't understand the point of all this posturing from both sides. Sounds like everything will stay the same as it has been. Have you ever heard of anyone being deported before? Maybe it happens closer to the border but I've never heard of it happening to anyone around here.

Only deportation I've seen was on one of the Cheech and chong movies. When they called immigration on themselves so they could get a ride to Mexico for a wedding. That's meant as a comedy but that's probably the crap that really goes on.

Their is not enough illegals to have any voting power, you want to sway a election you need to do like GW Bush/Jeb Bush did in 2000 or like old man Kennedy did for JFK, you want to steal some votes and sway a election bring in a spoiler like Ralph Nader or my favorite Ross Perot https://screen.yahoo.com/joyride-ross-p ... 00231.html

To me is all about dollars and sense, if we need more immigrants then raise the yearly quota for new immigrants into America then pick the best of the best send all the uneducated no work history no skills losers back to where they came from just like the UK now does.

Go ask all them right wing neocons why the republicans reformed immigration back in 1986 then never ensured the laws were enforced and never properly funded, the entire right wing is outsmarted by the left wing at every turn, now the republicants has control over both houses wait to see how the dummycraps outsmart them, NOW they have control over both houses the dumbasses wont know what to do or how to do it, in a few years turn on the news and listen to them play the victim of the dummycraps AGAIN haha

This whole immigration mess is all part of the Ronald Reagan legacy of course ALL his partners in crime gets credit for this huge failure, look at how many of the Ronald Reagan bunch was also in office when GW Bush was in office and still IGNORED the immigration problem until noboma got elected then they all came out started playing the victim, they are victims of their own failures haha

I hope Jeb Bush gets elected, when he was governor of Florida and he gave a announcement or speech on TV after he was done if you were watching it on local TV he would repeat the entire speech speaking in Spanish catering to the ILLEGALS that live/lived in Florida taking care of all his rich business owner buddies/cronies, he is a real piece of work.

I am speaking FACTUALLY here everything I am typing can be independently verified using any source you want this is not just some emotional rant, feel free to fact check and point out where I am wrong.