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 Post subject: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:33 am 
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Been thinking about this for several years and finally got around to it.
I want to see if we can "recap" our worn out tires.
It looks like Tuesday might be a clear day to make a run down my street to see if these lugs will fly off. It's the rainy season up here right now so I have to wait for a hole in the sky.

Failure is an option.

https://youtu.be/ujBUkILoG3k

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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:30 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 5:02 pm 
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My first though, no ((Bad Word)) way.lol Now had you left them all attached, and slipped the whole tread over the deflated tire, then glued it on like an actual retread, then maybe.

You could have then cut away some of the rubber, like re grooving a dirt track tire. But what do I know?


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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:29 pm 
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I'm currently uploading the final result on youtube.
Not sure how long it will take.
I had the opportunity to do a few test runs up and down my street because the weather co-operated today.
Results shortly.
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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:03 pm 
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Here is the link to the results video:
https://youtu.be/lNRGOPWta9w
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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:19 pm 
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liduno wrote:
My first though, no ((Bad Word)) way.lol Now had you left them all attached, and slipped the whole tread over the deflated tire, then glued it on like an actual retread, then maybe.

You could have then cut away some of the rubber, like re grooving a dirt track tire. But what do I know?


This was just a proof of concept but if we can hold on an individual tread then I don't see why someone could not slip an entire tread over a deflated tire.
I do see several issues with that though.

1) It would be impossible to find a tread that would fit over an oddy tire perfectly. Further more that tread rubber would also have to be bias ply.

2) The original treads still left on the worn out tire would ALL have to be ground off (which is why I went this route).

3) The amount of glue required would NOT make this financially feasible.
Doing it the way I did used one tube of glue for two tires and it costs $30/bottle.

4) The oddy tires (and all other tires) all wear out the center tread piece.
If that worn out center tread is replaced then you have a new tire.
I have just extended the life of these rear tires to almost new life. For sure I'll get 50% life extension.
I kind of boo boo'd by waiting so long because the tire was badly worn and if I had done it sooner then the outer treads would not be worn so bad. I could actually glue on more rubber on the worn out sides but I won't bother.

5) A positive to this is that I notice it was easier to break the back end loose to turn the machine because it's sitting on a high point now on the rear tires. I could do donuts on pavement with ease.
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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:20 pm 
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Well that went way better than I expected. The donuts were an added bonus.lol You might want to check your neighbors lawn though, thought I saw some grass fly.


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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:27 pm 
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liduno wrote:
Well that went way better than I expected. The donuts were an added bonus.lol You might want to check your neighbors lawn though, thought I saw some grass fly.


That neighbor and another neighbor guy came over to have a look, then we went to everyone's house to see what each of them were up too.
This is a great neighborhood. It's a free for all here. Nobody gets excited.

We have one crackhead that lives two doors from me but his mind is completely gone and he can hardly move around but he does not steal from anyone because his mom gives him an allowance for dope and he's non violent.
Great neighborhood.
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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:32 pm 
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If anyone has some ideas on things to try then drop a hint here.
I'm running out of ideas for oddy stuff.
I still want to try direct NOS injection but I don't want to spend that kind of money. I did find a local supplier in my small home town for the NOS.
I would also have to make a dedicated head for this but that's not a problem.
$$$ is always a consideration.
As for triggering the system and injection timing I may have found a solution. You can not use the original electrical solenoids for this because of the activation time of the coils which is around two milliseconds but that's all the time we actually have in total at around 8500 rpm.

Maybe I'll have to do a non oddy related item in the future ----- I was thinking a fully functional RPG (NOT difficult to do). Made a grenade a long while back. Never used it or completed it because of the dangers involved. Just made a fully functional set-able mechanical fuse in a open body.

Any oddy ideas guys ?
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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:08 pm 
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Ok you asked for ideas, I always wanted to use two dirt bikes to make a buggy. Imaging stripping two bikes down to bare minimum and sitting between the two.


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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:19 pm 
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liduno wrote:
Ok you asked for ideas, I always wanted to use two dirt bikes to make a buggy. Imaging stripping two bikes down to bare minimum and sitting between the two.


Well that would definitely be a frankinbuggy.
The welding would be difficult because those frames are chromemoly and incredibly thin.
How do I know this ?
Because in the early 80's I bought a brand new KX250. It did not come with a kick stand from the factory. These were considered race bikes back then and apparently the factory thought they should be put on a wooden stand when you work on it. Some models did come with a separate wire triangle thing that fit into a hole in the rear axle.
So I made a kick stand by copying it from another bike.
Then I decided to weld it on. NOT a good idea. I blew a hole in the frame. I did patch it up but I was really mad at myself.
So I would not recommend doing what you are proposing. It's better to just make a buggy out of tube.
Just my opinion.
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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:11 pm 
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canadian oddy wrote:
liduno wrote:
Ok you asked for ideas, I always wanted to use two dirt bikes to make a buggy. Imaging stripping two bikes down to bare minimum and sitting between the two.


Well that would definitely be a frankinbuggy.
The welding would be difficult because those frames are chromemoly and incredibly thin.
How do I know this ?
Because in the early 80's I bought a brand new KX250. It did not come with a kick stand from the factory. These were considered race bikes back then and apparently the factory thought they should be put on a wooden stand when you work on it. Some models did come with a separate wire triangle thing that fit into a hole in the rear axle.
So I made a kick stand by copying it from another bike.
Then I decided to weld it on. NOT a good idea. I blew a hole in the frame. I did patch it up but I was really mad at myself.
So I would not recommend doing what you are proposing. It's better to just make a buggy out of tube.
Just my opinion.
CO
Build a carriage type seat that bolts on between the bikes.


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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:42 pm 
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canadian oddy wrote:
Build a carriage type seat that bolts on between the bikes.


Didn't think about that.
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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:35 am 
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So the video should be up by……..Tuesday? :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Homemade recaps
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 12:02 pm 
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liduno wrote:
So the video should be up by……..Tuesday? :-)


Baahahahha
Actually I'm running out of oddy ideas and the only one I still really really want to do is the direct NOS injection but that's pricey and I'm getting really old now. I just turned 65 and will get all my pensions in about a week.
It's summer now and late rainy season here. There is lots to do outside.
I'm helping my friend. He wants me to build a car trailer out of some junk he has and I told him I would make him a set of forks for the bucket on his John Deere back hoe.
I'm also really busy with my mom. She is 92. Her bank is closing in Aug and I'm in the process of dealing with the square heads in Germany about her pensions.
My bank got bought out by RBC and I'm not happy as they closed our branch so I'm moving my money as well.
Paperwork sickens me. I can't stand it. I could never be an office boy.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:03 pm 
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So Wednesday? I kid I kid.lol

The one odyssey project I was soooooo close to finishing before I had a chainsaw accident was my 2 seater. I put a Yamaha raptor 660 Engine in it. I liked that setup because of the built in reverse gear. Driveline was done, Engine ran, just had a few suspension issues to workout.

The accident meant a year minimum before I would have any use of my hand, so the buggy got sold. It was taking up the whole garage, and even on the trailer, is wasn’t something I would have been able to move in and out with one hand.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:16 pm 
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liduno wrote:
So Wednesday? I kid I kid.lol

The one odyssey project I was soooooo close to finishing before I had a chainsaw accident was my 2 seater. I put a Yamaha raptor 660 Engine in it. I liked that setup because of the built in reverse gear. Driveline was done, Engine ran, just had a few suspension issues to workout.

The accident meant a year minimum before I would have any use of my hand, so the buggy got sold. It was taking up the whole garage, and even on the trailer, is wasn’t something I would have been able to move in and out with one hand.


Yeah chainsaws are an incredibly dangerous tool.
Lots of my friends are/were loggers.
I worked sawmills much of my life in the millwright shop. I had many other jobs but a lot of my life was sawmills.
In my part of the world that's where a lot of us worked.
I saw a lot of accidents, but chainsaws are usually a hard accident to walk away from. If you even survive then you're a winner.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:13 am 
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It was likely the least possible injury you could get from a chain saw accident, but it still ripped the back of my hand up. Cut a bunch of tendons, ripped the tip of my middle finger off, dislocated the second joint, and broke the same finger.

It aint right, but it's usable.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:22 am 
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that's pretty impressive man. well done. good glue bond for sure.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:23 am 
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that's pretty impressive man. well done. good glue bond for sure.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2025 10:11 am 
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John l wrote:
that's pretty impressive man. well done. good glue bond for sure.


Thank you sir.
I was actually thinking about this for years but my buddy who used to be a manager for Kal Tire laughed at me when I first suggested it.
He was in my shop the next day when I had completed it and said it would not work. I told him failure was an option at my shop. You can never be afraid to fail, that's how we learn. This "fear of failure" starts in elementary school when we are afraid to fail a "TEST". It's wrong to teach our kids not to fail.

3M is clearly at the top of the game when it comes to chemicals.
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