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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:16 pm 
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I have a FL250. Not sure of the exact year (how can you tell?). It does have the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) unit though. So my question is, it has zero spark. I changed the coil, still no spark. Changed the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) unit, no spark. So I am guessing, from reading the Clymer manual, that it is something to do with the stator and/or the primary coil on the stator. I tried testing it per the method described in the Clymer manual (connecting the ohm meter to the wires), but got no reading on the Ohms, and didn't even get a "beeeeeeeep". Just out of curiosity, I tried the same test on my other Odyssey which IS running, and got no Ohms reading either nor a "beeeep". Despite that, I've went ahead and ordered a new primary ignition coil which I should get this week. Do you think that it is the probem?

I checked all the wiring on the machine. All the wires Ohm'ed out and tested good. They are also all connected as per the drawings in the Clymer manual. Just to be sure the kill switch wasn't a problem, I jumped the wires at the kill switch to make sure it wasn't bad. Nope, that didn't help either.

I checked all the grounds, removed them, cleaned them, and reattached them. That did no good either.

So where do I go from here? What's the next course of action? I now have the motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) out of the Odyssey. Do I keep running tests, or take it to the honda shop and say "here, fix it!!!". lol.

I also ordered a rotor remover tool from Honda, which I am picking up on Tuesday (Today is Sunday). I'm more than happy to keep working on the Odyssey, but I need some direction if someone wouldn't mind helping me out.

Thanks in advance.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:33 pm 
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It was working then lost spark or you just bought it and it never had spark ?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:36 pm 
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My apologies. I bought it and it had no spark. However, I do know the guy that had it, and he said it had been running approximately one month prior, but then quit. I dunno, but that' the story.


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Are all of the pullstart engagement teeth (dogs) still there?

Does it have an electric start kit?


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Yes, the pull start teeth are all still there. No, it doess not have electric start. Well, I should say, someone had installed one but the starter didn't work and part of the aluminum housing was cracked, so I took it off and made it just a regular pull start, and removed all of the additional wiring and components for the electric start (and returned all the wiring back to the original pull start, per the clymer manual). Would something having to do with the fact that it WAS an electric start have something to do with the problem since I removed the starter and all of it's components?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:22 pm 
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Yes, the electric starters turn the crank at about twice the speed of the pullstart and ocassionally shear the flywheel keys if the flywheel is not torqued down properly.

That may explain why it "suddenly" quit working.


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Well, I took the motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) out, and have it sitting here. Tomorrow night I am going to remove all of the 'right hand' side of the motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) (per your question).... so I'll shortly know whether or not the keyway is damaged. Assuming it is not damaged (yes we should never assume, i know that), then what is the next course of action? Not to be contrary, I'm just inquisitive, even if the keyway is screwed, why would I not have Ohm reading when testing the wires leading back to the stator???? And as stated previously, I tested my RUNNING Odyssey (for the stator) with an Ohm meter (per the Clymer manual) and got no reading. This is somewhat confusing me, and makes me uncertain as to how to proceed in the diagnosis.....

Just as a side note, which has nothing to do with the spark, I did a compresssion test on the motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) before I pulled it this evening, and it was reading in between 135 and 140 psi.... good news..... (the gentleman I got it from said he'd recently rebuilt it..... before it quit getting spark....). The running Odysey came in at around 135......

As soon as I know something regardig the keyway, I'll hop on here and post the results......

Again,, thanks for the help......


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:53 pm 
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Ody_Stable wrote:
Yes, the electric starters turn the crank at about twice the speed of the pullstart and ocassionally shear the flywheel keys if the flywheel is not torqued down properly.

That may explain why it "suddenly" quit working.


Thanks for the suggestion. I took the side off, pulled the rotor, and the key was slightly sheared. I replaced the key, reinstalled everything, and wha-lah! The motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) fired right off! My gratitude to you for the suggestion sir!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:40 am 
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Great!

Every now and then even I get one right......

Now go ride.


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Man you guys are good :-)


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Well, I'd love to go and ride (yeah well, ok, I did for 30 min and burned some MAJOR donuts! lol!!!), but if you look , I have posted yet another prob I have run in to regarding the centrifugal clutch.......

But man, I so so so appreciate you giving me that tip! Atleast now it runs thanks to you!!!!!!!! You have my gratitude sir!

I totally removed ALL of the the electiric starter and all of it's components.... Now I just gotta figure out the centrifugal clutch thing........


Thank you again, sooooo much!!!!!!!!!!


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