I know some of the guys on the forum run one thin layer, Randy at odyssey salvage also told me that it was ok. Ran two odysseys all of last summer that way and had no issues, even with the aftermarket head. Mine did not detonate until I upped the spark plug heat range to 8. I must have just been close all along though and the plug was just the last straw. If you don't want to get very complicated on the rebuild, just run the full gasket with a br9es and problem solved, that's about as close to stock as you can get, but your compression is determined by other factors too, just install the full gasket, check the compression and go from there.

Run the oil and gas mixture your going to use for the life of the Engine synthetic or dyno oil it don't matter the rings will seat.

so youve changed your line of thought on this? what ratio should i use,20 to 1 or 32 to 1? what break in procedure do you recommend?
thanks

I havent changed my line of thoughts on Engine break in, you asked about mixtures and my answer was what I do or would do for my own engines, use the oil and ratio you plan to use for the life of the Engine.

I do think playing with oil ratios during break in is a complete waste of time, everybody will argue synthetics lube better and they do, its been my finding they don't slow Engine break in (ring seating) any noticeable amount, synthetics shine under high stress and high heat conditions I don't see them any better than a quality dyno oil at the loads and stresses applied during Engine break in.

ok,went with 32 to 1 oil mixture and synthetic oil.Filleed her up,pulled on the cord about 10 times to get the gas going to carb and then she fired up,yay! I still have this nagging feeling something else is wrong,there sounds like a loud banging coming out of the crankcase.don't have the seat on it yet,I wanted to see if it would crank first.So in a little while I'll put the seat on and see if it will move and report back.Oh,also pulled head and put all 3 gaskets on

What clutch do you have?

Sure its not the pipe, try to idle it up slow and see if the "loud banging" goes away...

Is it a metallic bang sound or a combustion bang?

stock clutch
sounds metalic to me,I kind of hear it when pulling pull start,once Engine started i heard it a few seconds then it went away,only let Engine idle about 20 seconds,then when i shut it off I heard it as it was shutting down

stupid question here-the crankcase is filled to proper levels I assume?Did you coat all off the pieces when assembly occured?Take the pipe off and look into the jug, do you see anything?Did you hear the same noise ever before on the motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? ))?

are you talking about the balancer oil? if so then yes it is at proper level.About to check transmission oil,that takes 10w -40 right? I don't remember the noise when I first got it,but i do remember it when I first started posting on here because i didnt think it sounded the same.I have so little drive time on this thing its hard to remember

I havent looked at the whole thread-did you split the cases on this?Did you pull the plug after this and check it for material by chance?Also, did you check the squish clearances on the head at all, that could cause some issues as well.

Also-on those gaskets 1 is for the starter motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) where it slides into the cases-2 smaller round washers are for drain plugs-are you sure that kit is for a 350 and not a Pilot?

When you say "stock" clutch, how do you know it's the stock clutch when you just got it?

The comet 94C clutches are prone to a metallic chirping noise at low rpms (idling), it is completely normal.

Can you post some pics of the clutch for identification?

no i did not split cases,did not check squish.I ordered 350 gasket set,gaskets fit case and head and intake and reed cage,so i would say its the right set

while Engine was down I pulled clutch and lubricated,see this thread
viewtopic.php?t=5109&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=24

OK, rules that one out.

In my experience the stock clutch doesn't "normally" make noise, unless something's broken or assembled wrong.

that's why I wanted him to idle it up see if the noise seems to go away or change tune, this applies to about any clutch, NEXT would be to go buy a automotive stethoscope and start putting it on the Engine in different locations to see where its coming from.


Autozone or the like should have them

http://www.tooltopia.com/index.asp?Page ... =nextag_r1

it seems to be coming from the clutch.I know clutch was not making this sound before.I know I'm not the smartest person,but once I got the clutch off it seemed pretty simple to put it back together,don't see how I could have screwed it up.I took some video,first part of it is hearing the noi8se,middle part is giving it some gas and noise going away,3rd part is after I took it for a slow 3 minute or so ride and then came back and let it idle,noise had gone away somewhat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr5n9oZjb_Y

Sounds like the clutch or possibly some other part vibrating against the frame maybe.

Worse comes to worse pull the drive clutch off the crank and start the Engine just don't go revving it up, noise stops might not hurt to look in the clutch again?

yeah,Im going to have to try that,carb is leaking gas also,and I had dissasembled it also,guess its me! lol
probably going to wait till wed to tackle this on my day off.Been working on the buggy on n off and doing yard work and i'm hot n tired,95 degrees today,heats getting to me

Spray some clutch lube, or PB Blaster into/on clutch and see if it helps???

well got my second wind and started on it again.Fixed the carb and I would say the noise seems to be the clutch.Took apart clutch and the only thing i can figure out is theres something wrong with the way I;m installing key,but i don't know what.Look at pics,where key goes it kind of widened the grove where key goes and created a lip on shaft that I had to file down.Pics are blurry but i think you can tell what Im talking about.Put everything back together and tried again but it still sounded awful so i don't know what Im doing wrong

took clutch apart again tonite and put it back togther and i think I got it,bad news is the carb problem i thought was fixed is not.When idling gas is dripping out of somewhere,cant see where.Is it ok to remove airbreather and run Engine so i can get a better look at carb to see where gas is coming from?

Do you have hoses on the carb running down to below the frame? That would be first place to look... then hoses to carb... then the float bowl itself... If you are in a dust free garage then yea you can take air box off...

no hoses running down,but i didnt have them before,its probably something i did to it since i took it apart because it was full of rust.I'm thinking its the float bowl and if it is I don't know what to do about it,lol.Dust free garage? is that sarcasm? lol
its not coming out of the nipple on the right side of carb{facing the Engine} that i know for sure.

NO not sarcasm, I meant dust flying around getting into the carb!!! The hoses would just make easier to see where it might be draining from.. Get them installed asap...
The float bowl is not hard to adjust just hard to get to it...