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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:19 pm 
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So i have my spare rotax sled motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )).. i was of course too cheap to spend the money on a puller as i rather save for the 350..

so i did a little searching on doo talk. and found that if you teflon your puller bolt up real good and fill the clutch shaft with water the clutch should come off with ease.. i gave it a try and it worked like a charm. makes sense since water doesnt compress it acts like a hydrolic version of a puller bolt.. but was much quicker and required fewer turns.


just passing this along since id never seen this method on here (probably for good reason lol)


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:41 pm 
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Tpreed wrote:
So i have my spare rotax sled motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )).. i was of course too cheap to spend the money on a puller as i rather save for the 350..

so i did a little searching on doo talk. and found that if you teflon your puller bolt up real good and fill the clutch shaft with water the clutch should come off with ease.. i gave it a try and it worked like a charm. makes sense since water doesnt compress it acts like a hydrolic version of a puller bolt.. but was much quicker and required fewer turns.


just passing this along since id never seen this method on here (probably for good reason lol)


Ok, how do you keep the water in, tip it on the side?

I have heard of grease being used the same way, but it stays in even if the machine is level, seems like maybe I saw Hoser do that once, or did I just imagine that?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:22 pm 
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Drakman wrote:
Tpreed wrote:
So i have my spare rotax sled motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )).. i was of course too cheap to spend the money on a puller as i rather save for the 350..

so i did a little searching on doo talk. and found that if you teflon your puller bolt up real good and fill the clutch shaft with water the clutch should come off with ease.. i gave it a try and it worked like a charm. makes sense since water doesnt compress it acts like a hydrolic version of a puller bolt.. but was much quicker and required fewer turns.


just passing this along since id never seen this method on here (probably for good reason lol)


Ok, how do you keep the water in, tip it on the side?

I have heard of grease being used the same way, but it stays in even if the machine is level, seems like maybe I saw Hoser do that once, or did I just imagine that?


yep i had it tipped on its side with the clutch facing up... i wish i had video taped it, it exploded off of the taper and scared the shit out of me


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:18 am 
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Drakman wrote:
Tpreed wrote:
So i have my spare rotax sled motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )).. i was of course too cheap to spend the money on a puller as i rather save for the 350..

so i did a little searching on doo talk. and found that if you teflon your puller bolt up real good and fill the clutch shaft with water the clutch should come off with ease.. i gave it a try and it worked like a charm. makes sense since water doesnt compress it acts like a hydrolic version of a puller bolt.. but was much quicker and required fewer turns.


just passing this along since id never seen this method on here (probably for good reason lol)


Ok, how do you keep the water in, tip it on the side?

I have heard of grease being used the same way, but it stays in even if the machine is level, seems like maybe I saw Hoser do that once, or did I just imagine that?


You didnt imagine it I do the same thing only with grease not water.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:43 am 
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I wonder IF the bolt could be drilled axially(without compromising strength),then head end threaded for zerk nipple :-)(he said nipple) to make a 1 piece puller/grease bolt? Maybe with added pressure of grease top ups,it would help it pop?...Baz


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:46 pm 
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I just tried this with an arctic cat motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )). I couldnt get the water to work but brake fluid worked great. I poured brake fluid in to the top then threaded a tefloned up bolt in. I hit it with the impact gun and turned the other way as I read this was explosive. It made a huge BANG sound and the clutch flew 2 feet away. that's pretty far considering how heavy it is. It scared the crap out of me. this was a steel arctic cat clutch not a comet aluminum one. Just a word of caution if anyone attempts this. If doing it again I would tie the trigger on the gun down and then plug the air hose in to the compressor when you are far away. you could easily get hurt if you got in the way of the clutch


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:15 pm 
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I think finding the right puller is a safer idea! (Unless it's an real emergency case...) They are relatively easy to find and a good quality one will cost something like 50$. It's alway gonna be better havin' a crash riding it, than being crashed fixing it!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:36 pm 
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I was pulling the arctic cat clutch to put a 102c on. I have a 102c puller. but the cat puller is $40 and I would probably never use it again I thought it was a waste. the nearest cat dealer is 1 1/2 hours away. so yes im sure its safer with the proper puller. as long as you don't stand over it and look down your most likely safe. :shock:


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:38 pm 
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hotrodd wrote:
I was pulling the arctic cat clutch to put a 102c on. I have a 102c puller. but the cat puller is $40 and I would probably never use it again I thought it was a waste. the nearest cat dealer is 1 1/2 hours away. so yes im sure its safer with the proper puller. as long as you don't stand over it and look down your most likely safe. :shock:


i think it was totally worth the risk :)

if you have air bubbles in the fluid the explosion is that much more fun. it is pretty dangerous though. chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts should sell a universal clutch pulling kit. (a bunch of bolts and a bottle of auqafina)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:18 pm 
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cool idea, i will have to make a note of that one ..


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:00 am 
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Here's what I was roughly talking about.
I just bought a complete rear end susp upgrade for my Nissan Navara V6-Frontier to you blokes. :-)
It came with greasable shackle pins,similar principal to what I mentioned with the puller bolt mod.
This way you could sim,simil,similtain...at the same time :-) increase the bolt torque and grease pressure.


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