Anyone ever seen one of these?

http://peoria.craigslist.org/sno/4161963966.html

That looks like the car they were selling at the Badlands last year about this time when we went their riding thought I took pics but cant find them, I think LEE was with me.

A saw a couple articles one time about them...I think they're made in Arizona if I'm not mistaken..found the article while trying to figure out if you can make a sxs street legal in Pa. The day that happens I'll be buying one!

And the next day die getting run over by some 17 year old who didnt see you because they were sending a text msg.

heard that....certainly has put a damper on my riding my street bikes...that's for sure.....another note in the "sand deeper" u can get them from China for under 8k and they want 15k-20k for them here.... http://m.alibaba.com/product/629624272/ ... c_4WD.html

Crazy isn't it? Wonder what they actually have to do to them here in the states to make them legal....I'm sure not the 10k+ they want for them.... Hell if I thought they'd be easy to make legal....I'd buy a couple....lol

I saw a few in person at a local motorcycle rally, the sales rep said they were trying to get them road legal but they have to pass federal crash safety guidelines.. so I doubt we will ever see them on the street. They are pretty neat little machines and if they would ever get them road legal id consider buying one myself.

They've been advertising these things on CL locally for most of the year. Prices seem to range from $13k-$15k. Right now, I can search "sand reeper" in CL and get 9 different ads for them. Prob popular because of the proximity to the Michigan dunes.

They're like a 2-seater Jeep Wrangler with better gas mileage. But...you can pick-up a Wrangler for as little as $3k in decent running condition, just not as light and solid-axle.

http://limaohio.craigslist.org/grq/4032027824.html


Also quite a few of the BMS brand buggies used popping up. There's a 400cc 2-seater and a 800cc 4-seater. Oil-cooled, auto-clutch 5-spd w/ reverse, trailing arm rear with CV axles. There's a 2-seater one in good shape used asking $3500. Almost seems like a viable project for a 2-seater 583 Rotax swap! Not sure, but I think they gearbox and Engine on them are one unit -- not separate trans.


EDIT: Also...a lot of the street legal buggies like these around here (not sand rails) are titled as "Assembled Roadsters".

http://www.bmsmotor.com/dune

When I was riding in AZ with a few people I met on the trail one guy had a china made buggy and he broke down everybody left him behind said they were all tired of wasting a ride trip on that moron who bought a china buggy that breaks down every time out and he can never get parts for it has to have them made.

I would never buy anything that didnt have a parts network already in place with parts in stock.

what I'm wondering is the company selling them is oreion and they are trying to get a dealer network... Its obvious they are the same exact China buggies that can be had for 7k. Are they buying them and registering and titleing them in Arizona and calling them oreion sand reepers, rather than selling with just the China mso and letting the buyer try to get a vin# and registering them for road use. I'm thinking they must be doing the paperwork and selling them as they're own brand and being street legal, as there's one in wv that is for sale and it has a wv plate. I know in pa anything that originally has a title that says offroad use only cannot ever be changed into a road vehicle, like the way they make rzr's legal in michigan... Just wondering how they're getting away with it or what kind of paperwork comes from China when they get it.. I do agree I'd never buy one unless I beat the death out of one for awhile and see how they hold up and see how hard the parts are to find....still a cool concept I'd like to see fly in pa

AZ allows any ATV to be street legal, if I get a AZ plate on my RZR then try to drive it on the streets in any other state I am going to jail!

don't buy that street legal lies they are spewing unless they can show you in writing its 50 state legal then that is only meaningful if you can VERIFY its legal, my first call would be DOT then my state police I am sure both will want to see the thing in question in person before they will verify its ok.

The way it was explained to me was that if DOT ever stopped you they will write you tickets for anything that is not DOT approved regardless what permissions the state gave you to drive it if your not in compliance, DOT approved, tires, glass, brakes, lights, mirrors etc. anything you have seen the DOT thing on over the years.


DOT has standards for a good reason and they enforce the laws for a good reason.

Exactly.my thought.....there's a guy on craiglist in Ohio selling a xp rz that's "street legal" I talked with him and his rzr was retitled as a reconstructed pickup truck, with a new Vin tag in place over top of the original Polaris Vin.. According to pa dot, if they saw this...the vehicslnwould be immediately impounded and taken as under no circumstance can a Vin # be altered or changed.. You can reconstruct a vehicle with the proper mso's and titles from.various vehicles in pa Unless the original vehicle was titled for offroad use only...like the rzr.. Same way KTM dirt bikes can be made supermoto bikes in pa, cause they have normal motorcycle titles, where as crf's cannot be made legal cause of the off road title they come with..that's why I'm wondering what paperwork the China buggies come.with, as if its just a standard vehicle mso it could he made legal.if it passed all the requirements as far as safety glass and all the other rules, but if it came as off road vehicle..it could never be made legal in pa

Found the pics of the one they were selling at the Badlands.