Took the day off work to bring my brother over to get his CDL. 16 people in the DMV. 3 of us are white. The rest are Mexicans. I guess they're giving the illegals licenses. I feel like I'm in Spanish class. There isn't a bit of English going on around here. There is a women translating for these people. I wonder if we're paying her? It should be a law that you can read and understand English to get a drivers license. It is a law for CDL holders. It's BS. I see people who can't comprehend English driving trucks every day. Shouldn't be aloud in the US if you can't understand English. They should round them up here and bus them back to Mexico. I need to move away. Not sure you can get away from these hemorrhoids.

They started that a couple months ago her in Vegas. State says it's to keep us all safer, because they will have to buy insurance for the vehicle or get the lic revoked. Like they didn't drive without one before. They had to have extended hours here to handle the rush. There was a 2/3 pass rate on the driving test and a 2/3 fail rate on the written. So the state is making money on that part I guess. Knowing the law and following it are two different things.

INDIANA...

I can't hold it any longer , how can
You read the signs if no obla English ,
Not to mention the fact that they are illegal
Why would they want a DL , either
Way wonder if they are giving the dmv
False info , probably couldn't fine them
Even if cops wanted too .

I guess road sine age will be in Spanish
Before too much longer . What a joke .

Would be nice if the feds would enforce the immigration laws we already have on the books. Then none of this crap would be happening. I've lived in Southern NM for most of my life (born in Ohio) and I've seen things change drastically down here. All you northerners are just starting to see the influx. Don't worry, it gets worse. All the schools here teach English AND Spanish. There is no public school that doesn't.

Honestly, I have nothing against Mexicans. If our government would just enforce the immigration laws and systematically round up and deport illegal aliens to whatever country they came from, and keep doing it, we wouldn't have the illegal alien problem. But face it, Americans used to be a pretty tough breed, and now it seems like everyone is spineless and overly concerned about political correctness and everyone else's rights except our own.

Hell, I could stand on this soap box and spout crap regarding immigration, illegal aliens, the f-tard "war" on drugs, and a slew of other issues, but nah, it's time for bed. Oh, speaking of f-tard government BS, our neighbors just rented their house to the state of NM, and the state promptly moved-in half a dozen wards of the state. How nice for us. We met a couple of them. They were having issues with depression and homicidal and suicidal tendencies. Maybe I should move to Mexico. The tacos there are fantastic.

They are trying to reform immigration AGAIN right now the FIRST question that need to be asked EVERY TIME someone mentions reforming immigration is "Why havent you enforced the immigration reform act of 1986" followed by "Exactly what steps have you taken to ensure the next immigration reform will be enforced"

They never ask these questions they bypass them then start with the excuses how this country was built on immigrants bla bla bla nobody stops these morons and tell them this country was built on LEGAL immigrants who followed a strict immigration policy when they migrated to this country.

You can thank your GOP, Republicans, conservatives tea baggers what ever you want to call them for our current immigration problems and the 13 million illegals were now stuck with they are the ones who reformed immigration in 1986 then failed to properly administer and execute it after they got what they wanted (more than 3 million illegals given amnesty) look what GW bush did to stop illegals coming into this country whilst gov of Texas, look what that loser did when he was president for 8 years NOW they are playing the blame game and claiming the left wants them for the votes haha, typical neocons all they ever do is play the victims maybe if they were proactive on issues like this WHILE THEY WERE IN OFFICE they would not be the victims haha

Its hard to avoid the FACTS you would have to be really stupid to support these types of people who had the power then done nothing, who already REFORMED immigration then did not follow through, now we get to listen to them snivel how they are the victims of their OWN policy.

Until you have some sort of accountability they are wasting their time and OUR money with this "reform" bull shit, WHO was held accountable for the 13 million illegals in this country today, all they need to do it READ the immigration reform of 1986 and round up those mutts then punish them!

Let me guess "vote them out" hahah

I would like to see exactly whats needed for a illegal to get a DL.

I know I need a picture ID and 3 other forms of ID including a birth certificate the last time I got called in ro renew my DL.

How do they validate the info they are giving the DMV, how hard would it be for me or others to go get a second DL in another name just like these illegals are doing.

Exactly how would they csi one of these guys, or do they just give em a freeking dl so they can get insurance for a week and then no more insurance. What a hypocrisy. I wish it would have been that easy for me when I let the danged dl lapse
I didnt have my original birth cert good grief that was like pulling teeth plus all the other documentation I had to produce
I was afraid they were going to look up my a$$ to take a gander in there too.lol
Think if an illegal doesent have their birth cert they just run down to mexico then back to texas or ok or where ever and get a dl I think not.

You would think it would be the DMVs resposibility to report illegals to Immigration being they are a state entity.I thought it was they obligation. A few years back a politician here in good ol NY was running for Gouvener and he was running on the platform of letting illegals immigrants get a license with no questions asked and no paperwork just maybe a address.I need three forms of I.D.

What pissed me off is like 5 times before that when my license expired they sent a sticker in the mail you stick on the back of your DL then you had to call on the phone and answer a question to some automated thing, after so many times they want to see you and I had the DL they originally issued to me and any idiot could tell it was not altered in any way yet it was like I was a criminal and first time in the DMV trying to get a DL WTF I simply had a birthday nothing else has changed.

ILLEGALS had/have no problem driving without insurance WHY would they bother to get insurance now and spend money they don't need to spend? Same with employers they never had a problem hiring ILLEGALS before WHY would they hire legals now when they can STILL HIRE ILLEGALS nothing has changed to stop or slow the flow of illegals their still is NO PENALTY for a business who hires them why they want to have a dog and pony show and call it "immigration reform" makes no sense.

I have nothing against Mexicans if they come here legally and do what they're supposed to do. Problem is they don't. I shouldn't have to learn Spanish or hear it in public. That jibberish is annoying. English is our countries language. I have a couple mexican friends that don't even speak spanish. If I go to another country I understand I would have to learn to communicate in whatever way is best for them. We shouldn't have to adjust the way we do things for the Mexicans. They adjust to us. This "politically correct" world we live in is just stupid. You gotta break some eggs to make an omelet. If they understand english they play the racist card when you scold them for it. It's not about race. It's about them trying to spoil our country like their own. Don't believe me look at how Mexico turned out.....
They come here and want to use everything without contributing anything. That's not right. As for immigration reform we should treat them like other country's treat illegals. No free healthcare, no food stamps, no driving privileges, no voting, nothing. Exactly what they put in. Go home Miguel. Do it the right way and your welcome. If not stay out.

Ditto my problem is with the ILLEGALS I welcome all the immigrants that came here legally and comply with the current immigration policy and obey laws.

If we needed 13 million illegals then we would not have a limit on how many immigrants we allow into the country each year and we could have temporally raised that limit until we LEGALLY accepted and processed the 13 million, we don't have open borders for a reason.

Allowing the illegals here does nothing but lower the standard of living for everybody look at the countries they come from you really want to lower the standards of the USA to meet their shitty country they are fleeing the shit holes they come from for a reason the USA is not a shit hole for a reason.

Look at the UK they are "reforming" their immigration because of all the losers that came to their country and turned it into shit NOW the new policy will be they only want the best of the best they only want healthy and educated immigrants with a work history if they don't have that they get the boot, the UK is using their lessons learned to avoid future problems and COST that they simply cant afford, our countries leaders need to review the UK's lessons learned by accepting all the losers who migrated to the UK its costing them BILLIONS the cheap labor looked really good at first now they are stuck with these losers sucking on the teet of the tax payers for LIFE.

This has NOTHING to do with compassion for your fellow man if you want to play the compassion card then what about all the people that starve to death daily or are murdered daily in places like Africa if it was a compassion thing these 13 million would be last on the list to be brought here to be helped.

You want to read the whole problem for yourself read this example, look at the mentality, look at the brain washing they are forcing on the average American, keep saying this shit enough keep telling the lie enough people start to believe it. http://www.buzzfeed.com/fwdus/14-reason ... -2014-hijm

Take them one at a time.

1. 1 in 6 workers in the USA is a ILLEGAL immigrant NOT a immigrant.
2. Immigration reform is NOT the reason why new jobs would be created, their is NO penalty for employers using ILLEGALS today why would they all the sudden want to hire them because they are LEGAL then they would have to provide insurance, workers comp and health, have to supply them with benefits etc.
3. Their is no penalty and nothing preventing employers from hiring ILLEGALS and NOT paying taxes so why all the sudden will they start paying whats going to prevent employers from using ILLEGALS once 13 million is made legal whats who is going to police employers to ensure the now legals are getting treated right and are paying taxes has insurance etc. immigration cant even control them at the border or round them up and deport them, they allow illegals with criminal records into our country NOW they are going to ensure the illegals are compliant because you signed a new immigration policy haha
4. If we need 11 million more American why do they limit new immigrants into this country to 30k per year and force them 30k immigrants to go through immigration? WE don't NEED 11 million more people we have over 12 million UNEMPLOYED Americans right now, they have said that these 12 million Americans don't WANT TO WORK enough times now on the news that other Americans are starting to believe this and accept it as FACT that they want to live off welfare rather than work, you have been brain washed by the compassionate for illegals group haha
5. So when it cost to much to enforce a law we need to abolish that law, then murder should be legalized today! The reason why we have 13 million ILLEGALS to deal with is they NEVER enforced the law the penalty is so low for a person who comes to the USA ILLEGALLY they flock in by the thousands, the problem is exactly why prohibition NEVER WORKED, then their was more intoxicant seekers than their was non intoxicant seekers, NOW were to the point where we almost have as many pro ILLEGAL immigrants as we do anti ILLEGAL immigrants so they are about to change the law to embrace and accept the ILLEGALS as legals.
6. I have never read anything to support this until I do I say its a LIE.
7.I have never read anything to support this until I do I say its a LIE.
8. I have no idea what they are talking about looks like double talk to me.
9. Go back and read #2 and #3 again same reason applies.
10. THEY NEVER ENFORCED the immigration reform of 1986 that's why we have this problem today, law makers has not provided ANY plan how they will enforce another immigration reform or how they will control our borders where MOST the ILLEGALS enter this country until you FIRST control the borders and prove you can their is no reason to reform immigration like was done in 1986, reform then and today is just a dog and pony show to further brain wash Americans and lower their standard of living.
11. if this was a FACT then they would automatically raise the minimum wage to 20 bux an hr to benefit the GDP.
12. Its also never been properly administered or monitored that's why you have 13 million ILLEGALS today, again what steps are you going to take to ensure any new reforms are going to work, whats the new oversight, who was held accountable for the failure of the last reform.
13. Has nothing to do with the problem or the FACTS found in the root cause of the whole problem.
14. YES yet they will NOT even address the basics I already have stressed, what assurances do we have any NEW reform will be enforced, what penalty was given to the people who run immigration and was suppose to enforce current and past immigration laws and reforms, do we have control over our borders preventing further illegal entries into the USA until you address the basics no need to talk any more about it, top of the list needs to be the ACCOUNTABILITY until you have accountability you have no reason to enforce immigration laws and just have more government workers taking home a check and benefits.

Tuesday a guy showed up at the house to read the gas meter it had a sticker on the door of the car he was driving that implied he was a sub contractor and not a actual gas company employee, not surprised gas company is trying to boost profits like any other company, I told him about this giving DL to the illegals asked him how long he expected to keep his job, he said "that wont affect me or my job I been doing this for 10 years" haha I asked him why his company owner would continue to pay you twice as much, got a blank stare and no answer, then I asked him "if you could take a job doing the same thing for twice the pay and twice the benefits would you take it" he said yes, then I asked " then why you think your current employer would not fire you and hire someone to do the same job your doing so he could make twice as much, another deer in the headlights blank stare haha .

Taxpayers are NOW FORCED to REWARD ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ! Make sure you pay your taxes on time these ILLEGALS will need it soon!

Holder: Schools must enroll children of immigrants in U.S. illegally

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow ... story.html seek out your own news source if you don't like this one.



This just blows my fuking mind I just cant grasp it, this MUTT is telling me that its ILLEGAL for me to ask for proof students are LEGAL citizens of the USA?

How about we deal with the ROOT CAUSE of the whole school enrollment problem FIRST, the ROOT CAUSE in case your like the attorney general and are too stupid to figure it out is the ILLEGALS in this country ILLEGALLY if you FIRST did your job and dealt with the ILLEGALS in this country ILLEGALLY then the school enrollment would not need to be discussed!

Again I just don't get it the "top cop" of the USA is more worried about ILLEGALS being discriminated against than worried about the ILLEGALS being here in the first place.

What I really don't get is why their is no outrage and why its not in the news spotlight 24/7 until the illegal immigrant thing has been corrected.

Why are we wasting BILLIONS on border control each year if were are going to reward them for being here ILLEGALLY why not just open all our borders and do away with immigration all together?

"Border control" and "Immigration naturalization " no longer has any meaning.

How about the fact that we have spent billions on trying to get obamacare running that could've been spent on healthcare helping homeless or jobless people?? This country is on a crash course for disaster!!!!

Sure glad most of it wont come to a head in my lifetime, now ILLEGALS can get a DL in Illinois how long you think it will be before YOUR replaced by someone willing to do YOUR job for 1/3 the cost ? You don't think they cant find a ILLEGAL that use to drive a cement truck in their home country to train as your replacement NEXT time your at the hall ask if they are still allowed to check for proof of citizenship also ask how many times the government has been to your hall claiming your work force is not diverse enough and is forcing them to publicize your books are open in areas where its favorable to attract diverse applicants, my BA is faced with this each year and has to document each place he advertised our books are open and taking applicants, I wish I could have seen the look on his face when that black lady from the state came in his office demanding to know why we didnt have more blacks and more women in our local LMAO myself I would have told her to leave and send all future questions about our business in a certified letter then had the lawyers give all the answers, he was dumb enough to entertain her.

How are the illegals treated in your great right to work state of Indiana?

Our schools are already broke. Our local high school just shut down the building trades program due to money issues. I'm sure they'll all end up on the free lunch program. We'll have to add ENGLISG as a second language programs. Spoiling things for our people while they're not even supposed to be here. Holder needs to put down that crack pipe. He's getting dillusional.they should be discriminated against.

We should trade all these law breaking illegal Mexicans we have here for that Marine of ours they're holding for breaking a law.

Hoser, the illegals can't afford to work in Indiana- very little unions here...LOL. There are very few jobs I go to now that aren't majority minority! Now whites are definitely the minority!

I'm adopting that phrase as one of my own. Love it! lol

I missed all that drama so did Mike Rowe show up to the school or just give a phone interview?

Let me see if I got this right they cut building trades classes but didnt cut any of the sports programs? that's good we all know sports are much more important than learning a craft that will support you for a lifetime, you know that give them a fish feed them for a day teach a man to fish he can feed himself for a lifetime thing only now its teach them sports so they can live on welfare for life, they can start working on how to convert welfare in to cash so they can go to the local sports gambling bars and play.

Seems to me back in the 90's they spent MILLIONS on that new school addition with all the new shop classes you were probably in school when it happen? I missed that job but had friends that installed all the HVAC on that job.

Mike Rowe just did the media stuff. He didn't visit. They built the new shop stuff when I was there. It would've been 2004/2005 year they switched over to the new building.

Yep, they eliminated building trades, fired the teacher, and raised all of the staffs salaries 5%. Nothing else was effected. Atheletics, fine arts, bowling... the importantant stuff. we're all going to be pro athletes or put on stage skits for a living.... They want to "prepare students to go to college". Not that we need people that can actually build things in this world. We need more supervisors..... Not thinking of those who can't afford to take 4 years out of life to go to college or just don't want to.

I didn't get to take building trades. I had 2 jobs and was in co-op where I went to work at 11am. I wish I had. Can't think of how many times fixing up a house would come in handy. Not even an option for students now.

These college educated idiots seem to forget how important the worker bee'a are. I suppose people in the school system are completely out of touch with the hard working skilled workers. All they see is people like themselves.

I guess it's not just teachers. Corporations are the same way. No value for the grunts doing the work.

How long will it be before they start busing ILLEGAL children to a school near you so YOU can have your property taxes RAISED to house, feed and teach the ILLEGALS, lets see since the REPUBLICAN immigration reform of 1986 we have had 12 years of the Bush administration that's from Texas and done nothing to protect their home state or OUR BORDERS , "homeland security" was created under the bush admin what have they done for the illegal immigration problem?

What has Rick Perry done since he has been in office other than get on the news and play the victim (gave him as a example because he wants to be our next president) , typical of all republicants they just ignore the problems when in office then play the blame game and play victim, immigration was another chance for the republicants to be PROACTIVE and once again they failed miserably, listening to them bitch about noboma makes my day where were all these right wing losers when the 'right' was in office and controlling the government but doing nothing haha, now they make millions playing the victim in front of all the right wing teabaggers too stupid to realize they had the chance to prevent what the current admin is doing and not doing.

The current admin is a joke and is doing exactly what I expected them to do with the while illegal immigration and protecting the borders thing, the current admin is doing as much as the past administrations has done.

All the bleeding hearts think its wrong their are protesters complaining about busing these ILLEGALS around to different facilities to be processed, they think America should send buses all over the planet to transport anybody that wants to enter the USA safely into the USA.

I think the immigration thing should be one of those items put on the ballot for the voters to vote on, those in favor of the USA becoming a nanny place for anybody who wants to come here should pay the cost when you vote in favor of illegals you should be put into a special tax bracket to PAY FOR YOUR IDEA and to pay for your bleeding heart ideas, a 75% tax bracket should cover the true cost of your idea to save all these illegals from the shit holes they are coming from, those opposed can simply vote against it and maintain their current tax bracket, anybody who does not show up to vote will automatically be considered a pro illegal voter and automatically go into the 75%, absentee ballots will be supplied by the IRS so you have no excuse Those living on public aid or funding of ANY kind for more than one year will see a automatic 25% reduction in benefits as their tax.

So how many more MILLIONS of ILLEGALS will they allow to flood into the USA?

How much longer will the average American allow the government to NOT ENFORCE current laws and to allow the standard of living to be lowered by these ILLEGALS?

Looks to me that "Press 1 for English" will be the standard soon.

don't forget the reason why the UK is currently reforming their immigration they have learned their lesson on accepting all the losers they cant afford to support and now only accept the 'best and the brightest' employable people who are able to be employed.

How many trillions we spend on "security" say since 2000 ? LMAO!!!

These guys cover most the illegals thing http://www.drudgereport.com plenty of others covering it also .

Another failure of the right wing "I am not a crook" policy haha this is the end result of that failure http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/07/07/ ... s-weekend/ nice try republicants time to play the victim and make more excuses.

Saw this and I chuckled because I pass two 8-10 hut seasonal migrant camps owned by a couple local produce farmers on the way to work. And I cracked up this morning because 9 out of 10 of the vehicles parked at the one (I call it "Little Mexico") were Fords, and there were 7 Expeditions, 2 Exploders, and then one Chevy Avalanche. So not only are they likely getting a DL with ease, they're driving mini-tank-school-bus-SUVs (fits the stereotype). Granted, they probably drive up from TX or AZ, but it was funny. By my recent poll, 90% of Mexicans LOVE Fords! lol

There's an immigration office (1 patrol vehicle, 1 trailer office) 1mi from my house. They're always out and about especially right now when pickin' season is ramping up.

What kills me though...these people drive 1500miles up here to work a crappy wage, 14hr days, 7 days/week and they never complain, they come here and they leave here without issue, and you'd never know they were here except for seeing them working the fields and then occasionally at the store. They work, they earn their living, and they go home. They aren't the ones you should worry about (i.e. they are the hard-working ones with a hard-workers' values). Its the ones doing NOTHING but loitering and porch-monkey'ing you need to worry about.

But then we have all the blood sucking US-citizen Obama-nites that leach off the system, complain loudly about something else they think they deserve for free...all while sitting on their lazy fat asses doing nothing, paying -0- taxes yet getting FAT tax returns, trolling Facebook via their Obama-phone on subsidized web access, keeping Judge Mathis and The Price Is Right's ratings up. So sad. If I were in misery in a country like Mexico, I would also try anything to get in here and live the dream of provision and ease. The problem is that every time more illegals come here, they generally don't prosper or excel, and end up part of the big leach problem we already have. And so our tax dollars get spread even thinner. The ones that take all the tests, learn the language, and come here the LEGAL way...they generally have some drive and have a better chance at success. Just can't "open the flood gates" and let the world crap in our toilet.

And all these kids that started arriving at our border towns...I bet the cartels and Mexican't government tell them all great tales (lies) of full access freedom and riches just so they'll go flood the borders, overwhelm the border patrol, and get the laser dot off the cartel's foreheads. Turn something into a humanitarian effort and the politicians and public get sucked up into it.

There's a citizenship process that's worked for DECADES. Follow it, or stay the F out.

We have immigration laws. Enforce them, or else shut the F up.

Exactly all these kids showing up is for reasons other than most assume wait 5-10 years their will be a documentary about this whole problem.

I have nothing against migrant workers who are LEGAL I have nothing against immigrants who are LEGAL, I have everything against people who break the laws of this country regardless of the reason.

We lost control of our borders long ago, what is the purpose of having a closed border if your not going to enforce it.

The workers you talk about and see locally should be replaced with convict labor and people who are collecting welfare benefits, they are temp jobs that anybody on welfare should be able to support, those that have physical limitations can work in the day care center for the welfare people using the excuse they cant afford child care while they work in the fields for a month at a time.

Convict labor alone should take care of the jobs that the 12 million + illegals are here to work.

The solutions to the problems are very simple we have all the lessons learned we need to cure all the immigration problems we face today the only problem we have is getting the people responsible for curing these problems to do their jobs, they are not doing their jobs simply because their is 0 accountability, they get paid the same for not doing their jobs as they do for doing them, they work decades using the phrase "you cant" and its accepted.

Back in 2000 GW bush could have easily change our military policy where they added 1 year to every branch of the military, every service member regardless of rank would spend the last 12 months of their service as a border patrol agent, no more excuses you cant man or maintain our borders in remote areas, actually this could have been implemented after WWII and should have been how ever "operation wetback" (Google it) seem to be the answer to the EXACT SAME problem.

The problem is very few of them come here legally. They don't pay taxes. They come here and work low wage cash jobs like modern day slaves for 100hrs a week. Sounds more like the American nightmare than the American dream. They pull that money out of the system without paying taxes on it. Also you realize since none of this income is on paper his wife has a full time job of collecting every government benefit she can get for her and the army that fills that expedition up. I bet it's a real slap to the face to the Mexicans who are trying to come here legally to have a better life. Getting told no while the idiots who think they're cheating the the system come here and lower the standard of living for everyone.

Just wait. Those migrant tent farms will become permanent. The town my job is based out of(Mendota, IL) is also jokingly called little Mexico or Mendoza. The office lady at work said it wasn't like that when she was growing up. Her dad built the grain business I work out of from the ground up and sold out to the corporation in 2007. She had an Aerial picture on the wall when it was only 1 grain bin (I think it says 1963) surrounded by corn. Off in the distance you could see all the white things. She said it was the migrant workers tents. Then they started up a trailer park now known as the zoo. Now the town is overrun with them. White people are literally the minority. Absolutely no economic growth. Just 2wd f150's with fiberglass wings, spoke wheels, and look like they're sponsored by Lund and JC Whitney with their stupid visors and all the glue on hood scoops and chrome accessories. On a good note they do have some really good Mexican restaurants and a variety to choose from.