Does anyone know if I can run a longer than oem shock and keep everything else stock?
Stock rear measures 20.13in long.

If I were to cut the upper mounts to accomodate a longer shock, whats the max travel I can have on a shock?
I want to use all the oem suspension.

I know works makes shocks that are stock length. But I would like to use a set of Fox 2.0 air if possible.
Here is what Fox offers in a 2.0.air
24.09 inch ext length with 8.5 in travel or 27.19in ext length with 10 in of travel[/b]

What is the stroke of the stock shock?

Measuring from the bottom of the oem shock body to the top of the rubber stop, the rod measures 6in.
I wonder if the fox 2.0 that is 24.09 in long with 8.5 in travel will work with stock suspension?
Has anyone done this before?
Inquiring minds wanna know

There is no margin built in to the Pilot. To gain any additional travel the inner CV will not like you. At full bump the inner race (star looking thing) is very close to the bottom of the cup and will bottom out if the wheel moves up. At full rebound the joint is at the limit of its angle capability. There is some margin for plunge, the joint could move out some but this dose not help. The ball joint is a non issue in this application (ball joint is the usual limitation on 4X4 ATVs).

To get more travel you need to get a longer axle or an inner joint with more angle capability.

Thanks for the useful information
So it appears one would have to go with Works shocks or go with a lt kit.

Hoser what EXACTLY did you use on your pilot? shock length and travel,upper mount etc?

Here you go and will add 1" of travel to your rear suspension.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FL400R-F ... dZViewItem

Can you imagine bending on of those suckers? Then get it rebuilt. $$$

WOW! that's a steep price ya think???

Well according to what Lee has posted above, adding anything(shock length/travel) to the rear stock suspension is risking damage to the inner cv.

How about these on the fronts, I wonder if they make them in the same length.

The best length I can give you to get to their page is http://www.foxracingshox.com/fox_atv/atv_index.htm
their web master should be proud he made such a POS website.

Priced higher than their regular air shocks but I think you only need their hand air pump to adjust the spring rate on these, its air over N2?

$695 pr they list them for many applications from the light and nimble 400EX to the Rhino.

What about the Pro G Series 4 , wonder what they cost..

http://www.worksperformance.com/html/atv.html



Works' Pro G Series 4 is at the top of the food chain. All new with 5/8-inch induction-hardened high tensile chromed alloy shafts. Damping adjustments include, adjustable low speed rebound adjustment, high and low speed compression adjustment. Large-capacity, dual-line (or single line depending on application) re-circulating remote reservoir. Advanced mil-spec heat dispersant coating. Anodized billet aluminum parts and Threaded pre-load (Tpl) as standard.

Pro Series Black Widow



Bad in Black, the new Pro Series Black Widow Piggyback shocks set the highest standard for quad front suspension. They are fitted with the low or high and low speed compression adjustments (depending on application), low speed rebound adjustment, large-capacity oversized reservoirs, massive 5/8-inch induction-hardened high tensile chromed alloy shafts, four-stage compression damping, Teflon fabric spherical bearing eyes, and threaded spring pre-load (Tpl). The damper tubes are treated with an advanced mil-spec coating that dissipates heat better than bare metal and Works' exclusive computer-generated check-ball and orfice damping design that is decades ahead of traditional deflective shim technology from the 1930's - the design used by most other shock manufacturers.

All the shocks are rebuildable and are covered by an exclusive 30-day "Performance Guarantee" - the ride and handling will meet your expectations or Works will re-spring and re-valve the shocks at no charge.**

I have a set of G-Series on the rear of my Pilot. They are really nice. With ressies, they are around $650 for the pair. I'll add some to the front soon. I felt like with the extras you get with the G-series, it was worth the extra bucks...only had them a couple of months.

You get the dual rez hoses, any pics?

Wow, low and high speed cans at that price would be nice.

Oops! sigle can dual hoses for low and high speed valving.

Stoneman did you ever come up with a solution? i think i have seen pictures of pilots with stock rear suspension and Fox air shocks, all they did was move the upper mounts, will this work? has anyone on here done this and how has it held up? because according to Lee's post this will put to much stress on the CV's

I installed FOX AIR on my Pilot back in 99 I moved the upper mounts up by what ever the difference in the length was between the new and old shocks, no problems with the CV's http://pilotodyssey.com/FOXshoxmounts.htm

Thanks Hoser, did you use the 20.09 length shocks?

I don't remember the length they were about 4" longer than stock?

I am just about to order a full set of the G Series shocks, ill post pictures of them fitted when i get them, and give you my veiw on the compared to the standard shocks.

Ok this may be a dumb question but im going to ask anyway, could you run the Fox air 2.0 24.09" length with a 20" limiting strap? so you don't have to change your upper mounts............

never mind, it would only give you 4" of travel and to much preload, im sure the shock is valved stiffer towards the middle and end of the stroke also........ just grasping at straws here........

link is broke???