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Spoke to tech at Fox today-the fronts are set from the factory at 200psi-not the 140 I have currently-he thinks it will even better perform at the 200 psi-I am at 140, he is telling me to increase it, and it will even better-any ideas?
I may order a set for my yoda kit at the 60/90 250cc oil(stock) and at 200psi which he claims is stock factory setting-it is the MX PACKAGE?-didn't get the name of it-and run that shock on pilotnuts old ride to check the differences in the 2 kits.


Going to 200 psi without removing oil from the shock will make the spring rate go up and make the shocks stiffer.


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wow, great pictures, it shows just how these shocks are adjsutable with little to no effort-the ground clearance for me is key for sure-I think I will go with the 200 psi and let it down if needed-thanks for the pictures!


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hoser wrote:
Mudbogger wrote:
Spoke to tech at Fox today-the fronts are set from the factory at 200psi-not the 140 I have currently-he thinks it will even better perform at the 200 psi-I am at 140, he is telling me to increase it, and it will even better-any ideas?
I may order a set for my yoda kit at the 60/90 250cc oil(stock) and at 200psi which he claims is stock factory setting-it is the MX PACKAGE?-didn't get the name of it-and run that shock on pilotnuts old ride to check the differences in the 2 kits.


Going to 200 psi without removing oil from the shock will make the spring rate go up and make the shocks stiffer.


Making it stiffer on compression, or rebound Hoser?Better for the rocky trails like in PA?Me personally I need a stiffer rebound IMO.


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Mudbogger wrote:
hoser wrote:
Mudbogger wrote:
Spoke to tech at Fox today-the fronts are set from the factory at 200psi-not the 140 I have currently-he thinks it will even better perform at the 200 psi-I am at 140, he is telling me to increase it, and it will even better-any ideas?
I may order a set for my yoda kit at the 60/90 250cc oil(stock) and at 200psi which he claims is stock factory setting-it is the MX PACKAGE?-didn't get the name of it-and run that shock on pilotnuts old ride to check the differences in the 2 kits.


Going to 200 psi without removing oil from the shock will make the spring rate go up and make the shocks stiffer.


Making it stiffer on compression, or rebound Hoser?Better for the rocky trails like in PA?Me personally I need a stiffer rebound IMO.


Just like adding a stronger spring it will be stiffer on compression and rebound faster since you have more spring force being released.


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Anybody remember this thread?

viewtopic.php?t=4003&highlight=pilot+rear+skids


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Cool, so the CV issue listed in that thread isnt a worry correct?


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lutrev wrote:
http://www.pilotodyssey.com/PO/viewtopic.php?t=754 Seems like the brackets went on around 2004


great stuff-good find!!!!


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lutrev wrote:
http://www.pilotodyssey.com/PO/viewtopic.php?t=754 Seems like the brackets went on around 2004


What brackets?


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lutrev wrote:
Was refering to your welded on rear shock brackets in the link above. Have you had any cv issues since you installed your rear fox shocks?


Think I went to the FOX AIR's in 2000, no CV issues.


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Nope, I am awaiting mine from KARTEK, should be here hopefully this weekend, if I get them, they'll be installed for the ride on the 19th OF THIS MONTH FOR SURE!!
Brackets went in smooth, great instructions,love the complete packaging as well, very well done!!


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Hey Trevor-I got my shocks today-they look way to long, do you happen to have a measurement of your shocks fully extended by chance?Any measurements of them would be a huge help as these things appear to be way long-
I got mine from KARTEK INC-they are listed as 980-99-016A 1.25 SHAFT On there site:
http://www.kartek.com/Product/Shocks/Fox.html

FOX-980-99-016A
Fox 2.0 Pro Series 8.5" Travel Air Shock - 1.25 shaft
that's the same shock you purchased correct?
I do not have a recepit in the box as it came to me damaged-so I can't check to see if they sent wrong shocks-theres not a mark on them as far as serial numbers, etc as well.that's why I am hoping I can get some measurements from you.I'll snap some pictures tomorrow of them with measurements as well to compare.


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there will be markings at the seal area where the shaft goes into the shock... measure the exposed shaft should be close to 8 1/2 inches, and 24 inches overall eye to eye right...


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there will be markings at the seal area where the shaft goes into the shock... measure the exposed shaft should be close to 8 1/2 inches, and 24 inches overall eye to eye right...


Thank you-I am hopeful I have the right shocks, the look way longer then 8.5 exposed shaft-and the 24 inches overall for these seems short-they went past my knees and I am 6'-4".I will post pictures tomorrow of them for sure.


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Ok,these do not measure correctly, I have a 16 inch shock-overall length in 39 inches-the extended shaft length is 16 inches-I ordered the shocks as per the thread- 2 980-99-016A did I order the wrong shock?The serial numbers on the shock do not correspond to those numbers-the owner RON says I got a 16 inch shock as ordered-did I mark down the wrong numbers?I see your numbers are 980-02-016A but the measurements from the supplier I ordered from are the same-24.09 15.25 etc etc, the shocks I got aren't within those measurements-the extended shaft length is double-can you guys get a serial number off the shocks you have please for me.I contacted the Owner at home and he is going to call me back to work this out-


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lutrev wrote:
You ordered correctly, on their chart 16A is the 8.5" travel shock. Any of the 16 inch travel shocks on their list, do not have numbers even close to this.He never even corresponded with his own order sheets?
http://www.kartek.com/Product/Shocks/Fox.html

Mud he should overnight the proper ones to you for your trip as it is his screw-up.


I looked in the emails we had, theres no exact numbers from him-I know I ordered the right ones-I am still awaiting a call back from him in regards to this-I knew I ordered the right sizes-and I know I ordered the 8.5 travel shocks as well :-)


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Ron from OFFROADPRODUCTS.COM called me back, I listed the wrong company in the thread previously, I purchased them from these guys,not Kartek- he sent me the wrong shocks-we bickered for a spell on shipping fees but came to a agreement on them, I am sending these back tomorrow and my correct ones are going out today as they are in CA.
THEY SENT ME A 16 INCH shock, they are telling me I ordered a 16 inch travel shock, not the needed 8.5-I ordered the 8.5 980-99-016A in a email, but whichever I am getting the correct shocks-valved as per my request 60/90 200 psi and the stock oil viscosity,stock CC'S as well.


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lutrev wrote:
overnight shipping for your trip?


You must read minds, that's hwat we argued about I wanted it, he wans't doing it.To answer your question, no overnight shipping, just ground for FREE.I might not be able to go this weekend and I see Mikey and Cafercr have pulled out already anyhow.I really wanted to get those in for the ride!!! :-)


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After spending several days with the stock shocks and a set of smaller tires I am thinking ALOT of my bounce issues with the Fox shocks were tire related...
I went to a 22" tire from a 25" and I can see in the videos the rear still bounced but only slightly... Even did so much as hit some small jumps at speed and never felt like the rear was going to come over my head like before!

One big reason I was wanting to keep the 25" tires was I would have thought my top speed would be more, but after switching the 22'S and running the same stretch of road I still reached 65 mph and did so a few blocks quicker!!!

So the only advantage I had with the 25x11x10 dirt hooks from bridgestone was extra ground clearance...


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Turbotexas wrote:
After spending several days with the stock shocks and a set of smaller tires I am thinking ALOT of my bounce issues with the Fox shocks were tire related...
I went to a 22" tire from a 25" and I can see in the videos the rear still bounced but only slightly... Even did so much as hit some small jumps at speed and never felt like the rear was going to come over my head like before!

One big reason I was wanting to keep the 25" tires was I would have thought my top speed would be more, but after switching the 22'S and running the same stretch of road I still reached 65 mph and did so a few blocks quicker!!!

So the only advantage I had with the 25x11x10 dirt hooks from bridgestone was extra ground clearance...


Tires and their settings play a huge part in the way a Pilot will handle or in your case bounce.


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Turbotexas wrote:
After spending several days with the stock shocks and a set of smaller tires I am thinking ALOT of my bounce issues with the Fox shocks were tire related...
I went to a 22" tire from a 25" and I can see in the videos the rear still bounced but only slightly... Even did so much as hit some small jumps at speed and never felt like the rear was going to come over my head like before!

One big reason I was wanting to keep the 25" tires was I would have thought my top speed would be more, but after switching the 22'S and running the same stretch of road I still reached 65 mph and did so a few blocks quicker!!!

So the only advantage I had with the 25x11x10 dirt hooks from bridgestone was extra ground clearance...


Tires and their settings play a huge part in the way a Pilot will handle or in your case bounce.[/quote

I can tell you from my LT kit the taller 23 worked wonders over the flatter 22's I had prior.
On to another topic, I haven't heard or gotten a email from RON at offroad.com IN REGARDS to my new shocks and a eta either-I sent him back the other wrong shocks days ago-will check tomorrow with him if I do not see them


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Shocks are here finally-I am hoping to install them tomorrow-it has snowed here and I have been working-I expect though to get the rear brackets on and these shocks as well.These are the right size, look good to install.
Also my YODA kit should be here by mid week for the Pilotnut Project Pilot-looking forward to that as well.


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Got the shocks and rear mounts in.I have 1 question, the rubber stops for the bottom mounts or the top mounts?there are 4 of them in the kit, and also do they go next to the eyelid, or on the outside of the supplied rubber grommets?


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lutrev wrote:
There are 4 grommets, 2 for top, and 2 for bottom, I threw the small plastic washers in,I place them on the inside,near the shock eyes. Some day, a guy will have to figure out some better bushings, but i have read were people used flat washers, and I think the rubber would be far easier on the shock eyes,than steel on steel.
I like the extra clearance as well, as there are quite a few logs on the trail by my house, seems that once you exceed 140 PSI,then you gain clearance over stock height with stock fox amount of oil.
Looking a turbos shocks, seems like the dealer added more oil,If he has 150 psi. My machine is in pieces,and my garage is to cold to play in, but when it warms up, I am going to drain the shocks to see if they are at 250cc, and take them up to 320cc,then play with my pressure,just to see the difference.


Thanks Trevor-thats were I placed them, on the inside by the eyes.I had a hard time getting the rubber grommets to compress due to the cold,but I heated them with a propane torch and they went right in.I installed a spacer in the old upper shock mount location-I figured it would only help the stability of the new top mount.I used a old RANCHO shock SLEEVE which fit perfectly, and a flat washer on each side and the bolt was nice and solid when tightened.
The brackets are well done and the mod I am hoping for great testing on as well.I will look at Turbos thread on his shocks as I glossed it over the other night and he is saying so really good things about them currently.
Now I may go up a size on the rear tire, we will see after a ride if the ground clearance can be maxxed out by the tire size.I went again with the 60/90 set-up from FOX,I like the ride it gives me,I will adjust the rears if needed after a test session hopefully soon.


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I followed my pilot in 1frc's ody and watched the rear work as we rode some rough trails here in Texas! The rear seemed to work great! I only felt it "bottom" once and it was only a rock that stuck up and drug the skid plates... Not from lack of shocks!!!
Thank you trevor!!! Has your spring arrved? I sent it before Christmas!


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Well from turbotx to nitrosport to me these brackets have traveled(well theyre in the mail to me}Nitrosport said he messed up the copper bushings that were with them,so Im gonna need some more.Lutrev,sent u pm sunday nite but guess you havent seen it.Lutrev,this is what brackets look like now
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-Fl400-Hond ... true&rt=nc" ."..

What am I missing? Where or how can I make some bushings? Im going to order the fox shocks,turbotx said order from downsouth motorsports and tell them to set them up like his were,but im not doing any racing,just trail rides with occasional jumps,nothing to big,any advice on how to have the shocks set up?
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