I am "assuming" you have not seen your Drak yet?? Let me know when you do, I am as excited as you are.

E

Next week Ed!
ALWAYS next !@#$ week Mate! My greys are multiplying like mould in a Lab petri-dish Bro!
I have been thru this before tho,I am a seasoned vet at this.NOW what I'm gonna do is PANIC ,repeatly say to myself " Baz,it's NEVER gonna come! It Must have been stolen,wrecked,sold off etc. Woe is me!" Then! Incredibly it arrives!

Well its December 7th 2008 any updates?

No production just collecting jigs for off-road buggys?

And its now May 9th 2009 the sage continues.

2010 Drakart Formula Cross maybe?

4 Months later and...

So how is this working out, 2010 model perhaps?

Jig collector?

Bump...

Any more info on Alain coming back to the USA?

i get a good belly laugh everytime i see that photo

It probably would make a good screen saver huh

I wish I knew how to use photoshop like the pros I have a million funny images about that mutt in my head, that pic is pushing my graphics skills to the limit.

A while back I was sifting through some old photos and found the pic of the mutt flipping you the bird whilst he was at the end of a tow rope at a race, his Drakart broke during the race and had to be towed off, the only funny part was him flipping you the bird because you were documenting it, I wish no one a break down, the other pic of him limping off the race track with bent Afterthought tie rods and a mangled up Afterthought front bumper on his 350, both a classic part of Pilot Odyssey history.

put moes head on the flip off photo and post it please

So how is this working out, 2010 model perhaps?

Jig collector?

Bump...

Any more info on Alain coming back to the USA?

2010 model ready to roll yet?

Father & son?

2010 Drakarts?

Why do you care? Everyone knows you don't like Steve, so why concern yourself with whether or not he builds Drakarts?

Last I heard he was redesigning some areas and sourcing new parts (like CV axles) so that people could actually get replacements.

Why I think that is pretty obvious to just about everybody for those that don't get it, its because the POS LIEwire sold flawed safety products to users of my site, POOA members, guys like you any me, then never made the bad products good, EVERYBODY needs to be very aware of this mutts history, perspective buyers or NOT, once they know about him and his shady dealings, no customer support, shoddy designs, LIES, UNSAFE designs etc. then they can make a decision if they want to do any business with the moron....

Silence is consent I will NOT consent to what he has done in the past he has NO REGARD FOR SAFETY!

NEW members join here almost daily they need to know about this mutt and every BUYER BEWARE..

I know I am not alone here EVERY person that had a bad dealing with him said "I wish I knew he was like...."

"Expert"

I don't think it has anything to do with "liking" chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts It has more to do with the "newbies" having both sides of the story! I saw chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts post on minibuggy his customers don't come from the forums, but there are several who seeked out the "help forums" after getting shafted by chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts! chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts depends on "newbies" finding his site or his junk on EBAY because anyone who has dealt with him once rarely goes back... Unless you consider Hoodlum/rooky??? And I believe he was just trying to get a better discount on some more junk for his trailer queen!
I have talked to several people who have had bad dealings with chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts! Even his own nieghbors, Bugcraps brother in law told me about the dis-trust he had of an chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts product! He was offered a long travel kit just like the one I had recently paid $2700.00 dollars for only $1500.00 with the shocks!!! (disclaimer: my figures might be slightly off, but it was enough of a difference to really piss me off!!!)
So do you think it's fair for someone new to the group, (kinda like you are) to be withheld this kind of documented bullshit and let them find out for themselves?
In Texas the term for that is being a "chicken-shit"
If you were fixing to drop several thousand dollars on a drakart that this chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts made would you be upset if you wrecked your new toy because I am qouting another person here who told me chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts used an oddball bolt in his Longtravel kit because they were $.05 cheaper!!! A whole f*^king nickle cheaper on a $2700.00 kit!!!
Have you seen his Bumpers? Look at his own site and you can see one in a race picture that some girl is driving that is smooth assed up against the front bars already! As if it was mounted there!!! So go do some research, and then once you have read all there is about chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts by more than just Hoser or myself then go convince your best friends and riding buddies to go buy that stuff so you can ride along side of them!!!

Yeah I seen his bumpers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeIE6KpHsC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9epoTz5pfm0

Historically if you look at his products, design flaws, failures, lack of commitment to make good on products that have obvious problems as seen in the videos, no customer service, you have to ask yourself if we really need someone like this in our community...

I cant wait to see his Drakarts if they are anything like his bumpers, nerfs, LT kit for the 350 they should provide many years of entertainment for us here on the internet and years of grief for their owners.

Its not rocket science anybody with 1/2 brain can see this guy has no clue, he is way out of his element, just watch the videos, where have you ever seen a bumper or nerf on anything that once installed flexed and moved like that, how can anybody in their right mind actually sell then package something like that up and ship it lol THEN not expect to hear about it in the future... Talk about creating problems for yourself, talk about dumb.

What ever he does it will have to be pretty spectacular to compete with a Redline, its going to have to be not only better but come with more features owners will desire, better everything, not only will he be competing with a established company with a dealer and parts network he will have to be cheaper than a Redline and they are selling dirt cheap these days mainly because of the state of our economy, now would be a great time to release a few to build some sort of reputation before and during the economic recovery how ever to do this he will need to take them on the road like Redline did but only better he is going to have to one up the Redline in all areas the Redline is lacking and then some.

here is the original photo before hoser edited it by the way...

1500 bux and it has none of the mounting tabs for anything, what a deal lol

Did you notice the "No Returns Accepted" he took time to type that out for a reason... BUYER BEWARE!

8 other auctions running right now this is the only one that says "No Returns Accepted" hint hint...

I wonder if this will come with instructions???? LMAO

some history...

http://pilotodyssey.com/PO/viewtopic.php?t=2678&start=0

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Yes list looks good, from what your saying hopefully it is fuel related, again if your pretty sure then just hook up a temp tank (plastic 1 gallon gas can zipped tied someplace (becarful and think) and run it the same as when it dies, simple enough.

sorry my bad W.O.T. is Wide Open Throttle
sometimes also refered to as W.F.O. I'll let you figure that one out


chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts, Live Wire, Steve Bishop (Professional Liar) is all the same guy, he also has a few buddies that pump up his stuff, ATVnut is the main one.

Condensed version is, 5-6 years ago he was just some guy asking simple tech questions kinda like you are, soon after he decided he was an Engine builder and started offering his services, early on he was clueless, it was clear by the questions he asked and the answers he would give, he made a few products such as his bumper and nerfs that are real POS, a few guys paid for them thinking they were on par with stuff from REAL shops like Graydon and so forth but they got took.

This was all cause we were a close bunch of friends and anything said on the old board (Kiowa's P-O.com) was usually asshole proof because we were all guys helping each other to save money. We try to help Steve, he didn't want no parts, we wanted someone to make stuff, just not junk.
Once we were all friends, money, profiteers and Aftersh**t changed that, a big fight ensued, Kiowa and a few others pulled some little girl games with the board and its members, so when Kiowa pulled Hoser's right to admin his own board, hoser and a few of us left the old board to get away from that BS. They blamed it on hoser saying he was starting trouble with people, but they were ones for real. Most of them have gone away or to other places, basically you see who posts and what their motivation is. The rest just don't like hoser's straight up and in your face attitude and have no place else to go to get genuine help from someone not trying to sell them stuff, personally I rather have someone tell me the truth I don't want to here than to kiss my ass and talk behind my back.

Well here we are several years later and we see EXACTLY how it is on the old board, EXACTLY what we said where people are more inclined to steer a noobie in the directions of their friends that are selling. It started with Moskito and he him pumping his buds like ATV Racing http://atvracing1.com/safety.htm, Bore Tech, ect. and then is Aftersho*t, now it has spread to just about anybody there save a few.

I will say for Aftersho*ck that he has finally brought his prices down to decent levels now, before he would charge you list +++, lately looks like hes been knocking prices with the cheapest on ebay.

hmmm, wonder if that frame is a "BLEM"????? LOL buyer beware.