They look pretty nice to me,anyones on the board?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-FL400Rs-w ... 1738469731

Not very refined builds looks like everything was a after thought that's why most the weight ended up being located very high on the Pilot that's why I always say Plan your work, work your plan. first time you got caught riding in the rain you would be sucking water/ mud into the Engine with that POS filter setups.

The full-sized hose clamps on the CV boots is a nice touch but better than the ATV Racing zip tie clamps

Have no clue who built them way too few detailed pictures and too many details missing from the description I would have to spend an hour writing a email with a list of questions and get a bunch more pics before I could even consider biding.

Any idea what's a fair offer? Those are very close to me and I've always intended to sell my Odysseys and replace them with Pilots. My criteria though is reliability. Randman built 3 odysseys for me a few years ago and they have been bullet proof. I also have 2 bone stock Pilots that are bullet proof. Should I continue to look for a Pilot that's clean and stock or are these typically fairly reliable?
Thanks!

Hey Dave, am I going to have to become a Pilot Mechanic? LOL

Rand

Ask what happen to all the stock parts that were removed for the conversion.

Hey Rand,

You gonna be able to make the drive down to check these things out for me!!!!

Hell that's only a three hour drive for me! LOL

I would be nervous about buying something that modified. A rebuild on something like that could be pricey!

Rand

It's only 2 hours from me to you. Can't be more than an hour an a half for you. Its up Highway 50. If you don't recommend something that modified I won't even pursue them.

Personally, I would stay clear of these. You would probably have to drop them off at my place to have them gone through. Who knows what or how well he did the modifications.

Rand

Thanks Rand. The thought of "more power!" looked entertaining but I will steer clear. I thought parts for those were more available than Pilot parts so I thought it might be worth it.

If the two stay around $8,000 though I might just have to take the half hour drive up to Shingle Springs!!!

Shows how much I know,I thought they looked pretty good

Just remember quite often people are getting rid of something because the item has issues and they don't want to deal with them anymore or don't know how to deal with them. Maybe I'm wrong and he has simply lost interest or wants to step up to a sand rail or Razor, who knows but the seller himself.

Anyway.....

Remember, these engines were not designed to be used in a Pilot and many modifications have to be done to the Pilot to make them work correctly. There may be the chance that he used a kit such as the one Farr OFF Road has made. Only a close inspection of the Pilot will tell.

Rand

I agree, a closer inspection is needed before spending this kind of money. I also think that Rotax engines are known for reliability and getting parts is easy and affordable. With that said if the buyer doesn't have mechancal abilities... No way could or should these be purchased. Modified bugs are like older cars at times.... Grab a wrench and a beer because you might be doing both driving and wrenching 50/50 on a weekend. The Pilots listed are clearly one offs, he even tried to save some cash by using two Pilot radiators on one of them instead of purchasing a better setup.
So unless the buyer has the desire to learn the mechanics, a very helpful friend or the skill already to dive into the bugs... Stay away.... Without knowledge even bringing these to a shop could be disastrous ... The repair slip could be ridiculous. 1. The tech doesn't know the first thing about the setup and just starts wrenching and replacing or he tries to pull a fast one on the unknowing owner. Etc...
Regards.